I have to agree with Paul.

Regardless of what we think we are all a by-product of our parents and the way were are brought up, we are moulded into the people we are due to our surroundings and the manor in which you are brought up. Your personality is moulded from the moment you pop out your mother’s tummy. For example, I am an argumentative t**t, and I will not back down if I know I am right, this is all due to how I was brought up having to justify certain things that happened when I was younger.
What watching movies etc as a youngster doesn’t do though is make you a killer, I have watched some horrific horror films from the age of 11-12 onwards, I have played sick computer games, it hasn’t made me want to kill people, or rape, or maim people. To my mind this is either in you to do it, or it isn’t. It has nothing to do with video games/movies/upbringing etc, if it’s in you to do it, you’re going to do it.

Well it’s nice to see prison reform doing it’s job isn’t it :rolleyes:

Creaking, if they had done that to one of my children I could have easily done “the deed” myself regardless of whether they were clutching a teddy bear or not, but I guess it’s different if it is your own child affected.

To say “careless” is pointing the finger directly at Flybe or the airport authority, not quite sure you can deduce there was anything careless from the the airline or anyone merly by reading sensationalism on a website.

To everyone who’s posted : Would you stand by your opinion if you were Venables’ mother or father ?

Anyone with an ounce of rationale in their blood would stand by their opinions, love for your child is unconditional, but it doesn’t mean you can’t hate them.

There is no limit to the winds aloft an aircraft can fly in. As 27vet says there will be a maximum demonstrated crosswind limit for each type. This is only the “demonstrated” crosswind limit though, meaning it’s the maximum xwind the test pilots have conducted. For insurance purposes the airline will be limited to this demonstrated xwind limit but can put more injunctions on what their crew can operate in. The a/c type I fly has a crosswind limit of 32kts, new first officers online are only allowed to land in ½ this limit until you have had the restriction lifted on your first OPC (Operator’s Proficiency Check).
There are also restrictions in place for the maximum surface wind allowed when landing, ours is gusting 55kts. There’s also restrictions on crosswind and tailwind components from contaminated runways etc.

Hope this helps

Dean

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As I said, the “what ifs” will be rolled out now to try and justify a sad and pathetic position.

Are you a pilot or traffic controller? Do you think all pilots are too stupid to realise when a message doesn’t make sense?

Sorry Amiga but you are showing yourself up to be a little ignorant. For example, an ATCO (or kid in this instance) gives a pilot an instruction to “turn left heading 220°, descend altitude 3,000ft QNH 1010. What was meant to be said was “turn left 120°, descend altitude 4,000ft QNH 1001.
Can you tell me that following either would deem the pilots to be “stupid? They both have meaning, one means a safe, executable vector, the other leads to an altitude bust, a descent and turn into a climbing aircraft on the wrong pressure setting. Please don’t sit there and tell me one would have meaning because you should know what direction you should be going, have you ever flown into London Gatwick on a busy morning lately?

Or do you think a traffic controller cannot hear what their child is saying from half a foot away and make a quick corrective transmission if necessary?

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Your live has been strangled by the fear of lawyers (which are really the heart of this problem – health & safety legal actions gone mad).

So according to your logic, God forbid if you ever had to go into hospital for surgery you would let a kid operate on you if the surgeon is standing ½ a foot away? “Come here son, I’ll talk you through it, it’s easy.” Sorry but it’s the same principle, exactly the same principle, and to be honest, you know damn well it’s wrong. There is no place in aviation for kids to be messing around in cockpits, or in control towers – period.

And naaaa my life hasn’t been strangled, and I do not live in fear of lawyers. What I do do is operate a safe and efficient aircraft in accordance with company SOPs to a professional standard, I expect the same from the “professionals” who are providing me with an ATC service.

Best Rgds

Dean