DeanoDean.
You and Lance have different moderatorial styles. Lance will often try to defuse a situation with a few well chosen, yet barbed, humorous comments. Some of us have thicker skins than others. As for your good self, I think you do as much as your shift patterns allow. Yes, you are often present and your style is recognised and appreciated. Moggy seems to spend much of his time in the Historic forum which is where he is at his most knowledgeable. But what of Frank and Andrewm? Are they really sharing the workload? I think not. Perhaps a couple more moderators are needed to replace those who are not contributing to the work load and they should be people with a specific interest in and knowledge of the commercial aviation world.
But perhaps the bulk of the problem is the lack of traffic since the forums were split, thereby diluting their content. I would like to see them brought back together. I can’t see Key wishing to sanction that as it would mean retracting a decision they have taken.
Maybe the Code of Conduct needs looking at again. Maybe we need an identifiable webmaster who answers queries and participates in the forums. Perhaps what is needed from Key is some enteraction with and guidance from the webmaster to discuss ways in which the commercial forum can regain some of the vibrancy it had a few years ago.
Regards,
kev35
Kev you are most likely correct, I agree the only 2 people who seem to moderate here is Lance & I, Frank does a small amount and Moggy very little.
I would also agree that we probably need 1-2 more (as replacements or as extras). I will suggest this to the Webmaster.
Dean
DeanoAs far as I am concerned all that is happening here is you are all agreeing with something about Lance that he is not here to answer to. People are agreeing that Lance is overworked here and that must be the issue, how do you know? Again Lance hasn’t told you to this effect. You are just second guessing and speculating.
The other (main) issue is that it appears that people are unhappy with the way Lance is moderating the forums. This is pretty evident, what is also evident in the earlier posts is that people want him removed from his post.
Now as a fellow moderator what do you want, or expect me to do? I have already said that this is not the avenue to get things done if you are not happy. What I won’t do here is start agreeing with you all about the way Lance has been moderating, because Lance isn’t answerable to me. How do you expect me to come up with solutions without further sticking the knife into Lance’s already deep wound? To me the solution is simple, Lance has to be stood down as a moderator, because this whole fiasco is about him and how he moderates. If you’re not happy then the Webmaster is your man.
DeanoWhilst it may appear like Lance is the only one moderating I can assure you I am ever present. My moderation style is one that goes with the flow. I’ll only intervene where I see fit. Lance obviously does it his way.
If Lance’s moderation style is more hands on then it will be more noticeable, whereas mine will be less so. This is how I like to play it, and the 2 contrasts is indicative again of human nature. There may be some instances where I think Lance shouldn’t have moderated, and visa versa, Lance may feel I should moderate where I am not. Is Lance’s or my style wrong? Who knows, but we’ll both do it our way.
Dean
DeanoDo as you wish with the 2 year old comment, it wasn’t aimed at you or anyone. merely a statement of saying you don’t have to be the brightest to know what would happen as a result of this thread. That’s the thing with text, you see how easy it is to take it out of context? Paul you preach to us about the way we come across, but I have read a myriad of of posts by yourself in the past aimed at others with the same qualities. That’s another story for a different day.
Put yourself in the mod’s position for 5 minutes, would you feel like you could still moderate after this? I don’t think so.
Sorry but there’s ways & means of doing things, and this thread isn’t one of them. Certainly not the way it’s turned out.
Anyway I am on standby at 04:00 in the morning, I can ill afford to stay up all night.
Dean
DeanoThen maybe you’re reading a different thread to me then Paul.
It’s becoming something of an ‘ego trip’ as far as I can see, and as much as it’s pain’s me to say, I think we need another general election.
And then the barrage of agreements, I can’t be bothered to quote.
Let’s face it, you don’t have to be aged 2 to know what people are getting at, and that is the removal of a certain mod. And to be honest the thing that is way off the mark and out of order is the way this thread has gone. You know what is needed if one isn’t happy. Did you really think the mod would have stuck around after this thread is gunning for his head? Really?
DeanoP.S. Moderators seemingly staying out of this discussion isn’t helping!
The reason I personally am keeping out the discussion (until now) is because I am not sure what you want me to say, or what I have to say on the subject.
No reasonable person can expect mods to come here and start agreeing with what is being aimed at a certain moderator, whether it be justified or not. This doesn’t mean I personally don’t have an opinion on it but one thing I won’t do is be dragged into an “internal” fight because of what is written on these boards. If I have an issue with anyone, be they mods or otherwise then I will say it to them directly, this is who I am. People can take or leave that, I’m big enough & ugly enough to stand by my convictions.
As for the democracy thing. I guess to a point it isn’t a democracy, but on the other hand you can make it one yourself by voting with your feet and disappearing (as has already been discussed).
The bottom line is, and we all know this is the case, the moderators are answerable to the Webmaster. He is the arbitrator here, not the mods. You simply have to take it up with him, then if you still feel your getting nowhere then you have to use your democratic right and vote with your feet.
On a personal level when moderating (which I try to keep to a minimum) I try and be as fair as possible, as I am sure other mods do too. Alot of the time we’ll get it right, but sometimes we’ll get it wrong, as do you – the poster. This is human nature and I try and say when I have got it wrong.
End of the day I will not change the way I moderate, some people may like it the way it is, others may not. But the Webmaster is your man I’m afraid – not us.
Rgds
Dean
p.s. The moderator in question will not be answering here because he has (to the relief of some of you) thrown in the towel. You have succeeded & you have what you wanted – Happy New Year.
DeanoRen
Have you been drinking mate? 😉
Stop talking in riddles and tell us what you mean exactly, you’re going to have to elaborate a little further. If someone has upset you then drop the Webmaster a line.
DeanoSay it like you mean it! 😀
Paul
As ever 😉
Maybe you can make a New Year resolution to answer your PMs :p :p
DeanoSay it like you mean it! 😀
Paul
As ever 😉
Maybe you can make a New Year resolution to answer your PMs :p :p
DeanoNew Year resolutions are a load of bo***ks if you ask me. If you’re going to do something you’ll do it, you don’t need a new year to spur you on, this is why they are all broken so quickly because generally you make a promise to yourself that was never in your mindset to do.
DeanoNew Year resolutions are a load of bo***ks if you ask me. If you’re going to do something you’ll do it, you don’t need a new year to spur you on, this is why they are all broken so quickly because generally you make a promise to yourself that was never in your mindset to do.
DeanoFS9 works perfectly in Vista, I have been running it on Vista 64bit for over a year with no issues.
DeanoNice pics, I have a fair few hrs in G-GFCB, nice to see her again, she’s based at Bristol Intl.
DeanoYes it will, have you got Vista 64bit or 32bit?
DeanoHugh
I did a little testing on this and it seems FS will change the ident when you are over ½ way into the runway, i.e if you place yourself on 09R you’ll get IBB, if you slew down the runway you’ll ident ILL at the mid way point.
Once airborne I would imagine this would be the case too, so if you are approaching 09R from the East then it may ident ILL until you are ½ way abeam 09R if you see what I mean. This is evident in my picture but so long as you have the correct course selected for the runway then the HSI should display correctly regardless.
Wait until you are mid point downwind and then check the ident out, ensure you have 094 set in the course window
Deano, for a novice and only part-time flyer, I found this extremely helpful and instructive.
Many thanks and a Happy Christmas.:)
Sky High, thanks and a belated Merry Christmas to you too 🙂
Under what conditions does ATC enforce ILS protected areas, with their more conservative hold points, and what phraseology is likely to be used? I occasionally fly at airports with special protected hold points, but I dont think Ive ever been told to hold at one of these points as opposed to the usual hold points next to the runway. Are they used only when Cat III operations are in progress, or when Cat III might be in progress, or what? Are they used for other types of ILS operations?
AD
Normally when LVPs are in progress, if the Vis is less then 550mtrs here in the UK (subject to local procedures) then you are into CAT II territory, so the ILS has to have a protected area like you said. The CAT III hold point is normally co located with a CAT II hold should that airport be CAT III equipped.
The phraseology is not much different, they tell you hold at the protected hold instead of the normal CAT I hold.
What normally happens in LVPs is pilots will give position reports, i.e “Entering rwy xx” and “airborne” etc
Hope this helps
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