1: For defense of self or others. (law enforcement is often unavailable, indifferent, inept, overwhelmed, under funded and under trained, slow to respond and sometimes corrupt: so individuals should have the right to bear arms) . It also is a deterrent against criminals.
What is better protection than some back country hill-bill with his assault rifle making the work of police, procecutor, judge and executor:dev2:
2: An armed public is a deterrent for foreign nations to militarily take and occupy the United States. (I think the UN is incrementally and very insidiously trying to attack and revoke the US right to bear arms, to undermine our Constitution and country and establish a much stronger world government ( a “new world order“)
And if all the US citizens suddenly lost all their weapons, right away in a row there would be invasion of….of…hmm…ahh…ooh…which country?
3: A well armed public; is a deterrent for fascist leadership or an unjust coup attempt. I think if Congress didn’t think the public was armed, that they would be more tyrannical.
And in all other western democracys we are defensless if the govenrment suddenly goes fasist…arrhghh…so thats why our truckers had to decrease the width of their trailers by 10 cm as they didn’t have any guns as a deterence force against the bloody EU Fasist:mad::mad:
4: If the US government was to get too far out of line, (and if all reasonable peaceful methods have been exhausted or deemed unappropriate) private gun ownership gives the public the ability to rebel with significant force on a more level playing field.
…or they could just like vote a govenrment that wont go too far out of line, couldn’t they? I mean isen’t that the idea of US political system:confused:
5: For hunting: to provide food, clothing, and other raw materials and for money such as bounty, tourism for guided hunts, etc
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Oh yeas the fur….I mean we cannot let people to walk naked in the streets do we? And they do need to eat something….Wonder have any one tought that it would be a good thing if you could like harvest some mellow animals in some closed place and like kill one or two once a while to let the people eat meat time to time? I know it sounds wild but could it be done?
6: For sportsmanship. Such as marksmanship, competition shooting, ect… ( I feel that this is also covered in the “declaration of independence” under the “pursuit of happiness” )
Ah well you see I’m a sports-shooter, my sport being the air-rifle and small-brone rifle, the sole rifle-sports in the olympics. Altough there is other type of shooting sports, yet no ISSF branch requires weopons like pistols over .32 calibre or so on…
Ach…..he didn’t deserve it:mad:
do you know why? Becouse that what you lot came to yell last year when Räikkönen did the deed…:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Payback revange:diablo::diablo::diablo:
After getting that from my heart, goncraturlations to mr Hamliton, Winning Formula 1 championship is not something that every kid could claim.
Ach…..he didn’t deserve it:mad:
do you know why? Becouse that what you lot came to yell last year when Räikkönen did the deed…:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Payback revange:diablo::diablo::diablo:
After getting that from my heart, goncraturlations to mr Hamliton, Winning Formula 1 championship is not something that every kid could claim.
The soviet carrier brone AWACS plane which eventually came up to be the Yak-44 is as old as a concept as the Soviet full scale aircraft carrier program. It’s mentioned (and included in the only drawings) alongside with the pr. 1160 which was the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier design from the late 60’s, early 70’s and is couped with pr. 1153 as well as the early premilinary versions of Kuznetsov.
When discussing about soviet carriers you need to keep in mind that alongside the Kiev’s the conventional aircraft carrier idea grew in soviet naval circles. Due heavy resistance it was often pushed to the backround and many projects remained just projects nothing more. Kuznetsov class was as a design a consensus between the supersonic VSTOL block and real conventional aicraft block. Initial plans called catabults and arrestor wires and apparently at this point the AWACS plane was still considered to be part of the airgroup. However it was decided that the airgroup would be completely for VSTOL planes and the catabults were eliminated and ski-jump was added. Now the important thing to remember was that the Ski-jump was orginally adopted to boost the capability of the supersonic VSTOL plane (tobe Yak-41) and not for STOBAR arragment for conventional planes. So indeed the Yak-44 was dropped out at this point.
When the ships were still at building phase it was discovered that the new powerfull MiG-29 and Su-27 conventional jets could take of by using the ski-jump and as the orginal layout for the ship was designed with CATOBAR arragment in mind, it was easy to add the arrestor wires for the design.
Apparently the question in this depate seems to be that was Yak-44 added again to the airgroup? There are solid proofs for and against:
First the mock-up of Yak-44 was tested onboard Tbilisi (later Kuznetsov)
Why would it be tested if it’s not going to be included to the airwing?
But then again all the drawings and models of Ulyanovks (and do remember that the models are official models of the designers, not some fan work) shows the Yak-44 onboard Ulyanovsk catabults and not on the STOBAR take-off spots. Also the very little liturate of Ulyanovsk also descripes the catabults being for the Yak-44 specially.
Hmmm what are the odds for Jimmy to come next to public and say: These are just rumours, there is no tour nor reccord beeing made….Hadn’t he done so…how many times now after the reunion?:rolleyes:
Hmmm what are the odds for Jimmy to come next to public and say: These are just rumours, there is no tour nor reccord beeing made….Hadn’t he done so…how many times now after the reunion?:rolleyes:
Is this guys serious? I mean Guns ‘n roses is the one of these which actually is a rock band…:dev2:
Is this guys serious? I mean Guns ‘n roses is the one of these which actually is a rock band…:dev2:
Oh sorry, I lost that in the midst of all the other discussion…
It’s odd place. Notice the dome in the side of the mainmast. I’m wondering what is in the port side of the ship…
Enough of that petty fanboy pissing contests:mad::mad:
Here’s something new and exiting…Point of interest, Urans and what appears to be a Mineral FCR…
Yaroslav Murdy
Kuznetsov have 6 AK-630s, pairs on each side at midship and one on each side at the stern.
Kahstan/Kortik carries missiles but they are not often deployed.
All initial models, drawings and more accurate references states that Ulyanovsk would have fielded Kinzhal (Naval version of Tor) eg. SA-N-9 Gauntlet. However at least one model shows a different type VLS silos which indicates more to Uragan/Shtill (naval version of Buk) VLS mode. Only proplem is that the Orekh directors assosiated to the system are abcent. So the VLS may well be for the mystical Poliment SAM system.
Live and let die…no question about it…
…tough the theme in the begining of Life Of Brian is definately the best in “sloppy/banal-overbombastic ballads” cathegory.
Live and let die…no question about it…
…tough the theme in the begining of Life Of Brian is definately the best in “sloppy/banal-overbombastic ballads” cathegory.
sorry for asking again but nobody replied
Well shouldn’t that be quite clear indicator that there have been no news about Yaroslav Mudry??