Google Mail and Hotmail are different entities. Hotmail is a Microsoft bag of spanners and has been rebranded under the MS ‘Outlook’ banner. Google is just a many tentacled thing that demands compliance and is painful to be involved with.

I’ve not had to set up guarded services like this for a while but you used to be able to get free accounts with a Canadian outfit called ‘Hushmail’ that were pretty well segregated from the mainstream commercial streams…..I think that is now a pay to play service now though.

GMX do free webmail accounts as well (http://www.gmx.com) that look comprehensive in their features and should be ‘off-grid’ enough that it doesnt get caught up in the Google account bundling.

However, that is a fraction of the story. One swallow does not a summer make.

So a limited subset of verifiable data on positive integration does not add up to many swallows……yet a handful of militant extremists claiming religious motivation is sufficient to condemn an entire population?. That sounds intellectually honest.

Sharia courts are already in UK cities as you already know,

Yes and any rulings they make contrary to UK law will be punished appropriately….so they aren’t courts….as you already know.

I haven’t said that one Sharia court in any one city could usher them across the nation, as its all down to demographics and time as I outlined in the post this morning…

Now were getting somewhere. Now you’ve admitted your sentence……

Not yet, but what happens when the Muslim demographics reach the majority in a city, when the city council has a Muslim majority, or when a Muslim Mayor is elected

….is meaningless rubbish. Would you now detail the level of demographic change necessary to overturn the roughly 45mn vote opposed to Sharia in the country now?. It will inform John if nothing else?.

John,

This really isnt 1950. Islamic influence exists in this country. Hindu influence exists in this country. Jewish influence exists in this country. Just as relevant to our society is the influence of american hyper-consumerism, of european liberal socialism, of Russian facism, of Chinese autocracy and financial hegemony.

When you catch on to the fact that, in the 21st century, every culture that is exposed to the tidal wave of instant global communication is shifting, changing and adapting maybe you can factor in this debate. Our culture is being pulled in many different directions simultaneously and long may that continue.

You bleat about Sharia and islamification….yet you are too blinkered to see that our, strong, clear and moral values are ones that are Anglicising those of african and asiatic islamic descent at a massively disproportionate rate than the other way around. Simple challenge for you….go find out the statistics for girl children of islamic families in higher and further education in the UK. It’ll be educational for you.

Not yet, but what happens when the Muslim demographics reach the majority in a city, when the city council has a Muslim majority, or when a Muslim Mayor is elected, most probably Labour…

The last time you looked it was 2 million in the UK, that was from the 2011 census, so 5 years later due to high Muslim birthrates and immigration that’s now 3 million, it’s nothing to worry about at all is it Steve… 🙂

Why would it be something to worry about Stu?.

What do you think will happen if there is a muslim majority in a city?. Is it going to secede from the union and set up its own caliphate do you think?. Individual city authorities have never had the power to pick and choose which laws they follow and which they dont. Why should that change?.

Seeing that, on top of the anglo-saxon, celt, norman, roman and viking decendants, there isnt room for enough african/asians to skew a vote towards Sharia I’m fascinated as to what you actually think could be a real problem here???.

Well said.

Last I heard there were about 2 million Muslims in the UK. 33% would then be a number somewhere near 600,000 who would vote for sharia here.

There are about 45 million people of voting age in the UK. So 600,000 against 44.4million?. Don’t think sharia is going to be an issue we need worry about any time in the foreseeable future?.

Don’t worry Jonesy. Everything will be ok. We’ll look after you. I keep telling you; don’t eat cheese after 10.0pm.

The news isn’t all bad. I’d back you with hard cash as a promising writer of pulp fiction. Get to night school, sort out your punctuation, grammar and syntax, and that anarchic style, that from you is so reflective, will do the rest.

Barbara Cartland ? Move over.

Generosity that is uncharacteristic of you John?. I’m nearly touched. Then again I’m white British aren’t I so maybe the charitable spirit is understandable.

Suffice it to say all of what’s written above is correct and verifiably so. The fact that you are able to be so blissfully ignorant of it would be more of a concern for you I would have thought. You seem to be missing things as you age John….I’d be saving the pennies for the heating bill if I were you old boy. Just in case that slips your mind one of these days.

Jonesy,

It’s getting serious. You’re quite deluded. What on earth makes you think that ‘your message is clearly getting thru’.

The fact that you lot temporise, obfuscate or sink into witless nitpickery when you are shown clear facts….like the need for QE on an economy that you suggested hadn’t seen the dire maladies predicted pre-vote. There is no rebuttal as the facts speak for themselves….ergo message has gotten through. Sure you will ignore it as it doesn’t fit your fantasy 1950’s narrative. Equally I’m sure you’ll find some way to make it all the EU’s fault that the Bank of England had to drop 10bn into the economy to keep things propped up.

The fact that you are only taking this ‘seriously’ now is also quite evident!. Its been serious for me for weeks…..its serious that I’ve been in meetings for the last few weeks with clients who’re pulling out or pending major capital spends on UK sites. Its serious that were being told that the best we can hope for is zero growth. Its ominous that these things are happening now before we’ve even triggered article 50.

I’m deluded?. FFS you’re living in a fantasy world man.