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  • in reply to: Mig-25 vs. SR-71 and XB-70 vs. T-4 #2498242
    KKM57P
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    Out the SR-71 handbook.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon news II #2469293
    KKM57P
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    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon news II #2469297
    KKM57P
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    Have fun coughing up the R&D dough for your stealth industry. If the Tiffy is any indicator your first stealth fighter should make the F-22 look like a bargain. :diablo:

    Your F-22 and F-35 fly with MTUs Blisk licences!

    Keep in mind the “Lockheed bribery scandals” and the “German Starfighter Affäre”!

    “Former Lockheed lobbyist Ernest Hauser told Senate investigators that Minister of Defence Franz Josef Strauß and his party had received at least $10 million for West Germany’s purchase of 900 F-104G Starfighters in 1961.”

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon news II #2489619
    KKM57P
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    L’Eurofighter est actuellement le meilleur avion de combat multirôles à hautes performances de prochaine génération.:diablo:

    in reply to: Does Tu-95 noise have any tactical disadvantages? #2494068
    KKM57P
    Participant

    Scary!!! 😮

    All Thyratrons radiates X-rays. 😉

    in reply to: IRBIS and the detection of low RCS targets #2503059
    KKM57P
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    That is a B-1B nacelle I posted, you can see straight through to the compressor in a few spots, so the line of sight is not totally blocked.

    You can look inside off a microwave offen (mesh) but no microwave is transmitted outside. Is the distance between the baffels smaller as the wavelengt than block this the HF to travel inside of the duct. The first compressor stage is than invesible for a RADAR. Maybe a little bit reflection through the tunnel effect and this can damped with RAM.

    in reply to: 1st F-35B nozzle test video. #2503242
    KKM57P
    Participant

    AVS Program: Joint German / US project with EWR / Boeing then EWR / Fairchild Hiller Republic

    Advanced V/STOL Tactical Fighter Weapons System (AVS)
    • Design study for an F-104G successor with V/STOL capability
    • Joint German / US project with EWR / Boeing then EWR / Fairchild Hiller Republic
    • Program ran from 1964-68

    in reply to: Stupid ? F-22 vs Typhoon? #2513590
    KKM57P
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    Can I ask everyone where is “china lake”, is it some sort of airforce base in america?

    If so, I have seen images of the typhoon there, in a desert type background

    :confused:

    Mean you this Picture?

    in reply to: IRBIS and the detection of low RCS targets #2514293
    KKM57P
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    http://www.NIIP.ru
    Antenna Type BARS: radar antenna lattice hydraulically driven
    maximum deviation in the angles
    Accompanied by a solitary goal degrees.:

    Azimuth +70
    on the corner of the place +40
    Zone crawling with search and seizure goal
    : in dogfights, hail.:
    Azimuth +3; +10 +3; +10
    on the corner of the place -15…+40; +7,5 -15 … +40; +7.5

    Receiver

    Channel 3
    noise ratio, db 3
    The transmitter
    kw in power, at least
    4-5
    1.2
    fixtures 1
    Programmable Signal Processor
    speed of data entry, MHz 28
    peak performance in the discharge 75
    Processor management of radar
    number of processors 3
    flash-memory processor, mb 16
    Size static memory processor, mb 16
    The regime of air-to-air
    Range takeover fighter, not less, km:
    — to counter courses 120-140
    at dogonnyh courses 60
    The regime of air-to-surface missiles
    км: Detection range, not less, km:
    — railway bridge 80-120
    — Group tanks 40-50 40-50
    — destroyer 120-150 120-150
    SAR Maximum resolution, m About 10 m

    in reply to: IRBIS and the detection of low RCS targets #2514325
    KKM57P
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    A ferrite phase shifter is a magnetic 1-D scanning lens and slow to respond to control signals and cannot be used in applications where rapid beam scanning is required. A loss of 1db in the C-Band and ~3db in the X-band and 200V bias voltage for steering is common. But that advantage is a possible continuous scan in the +-70° limit. Another adavantge is you need only (n + m) control wire against (n x bit x m x bit) for a Radant lens. PIN diodes can also be used to make very low-loss phase shifters, but who wants to deal with thousands of devices that are controlled by current, not voltage? In ferrit phaseshifter used a dielectricum this is a isolator. In Radant lenses use metal strips for the phaseshift. Maybe take a look on the NIIP Webpage. http://www.niip.ru 😉

    The RBE-2 Radant Lens is a 1-D scanning lens. Currently the switch is
    a PIN diode. Thirteen copper clad Teflon-glass circuit layers are
    typically employed for a 4-bit phase shifter. Transmission loss is 0.9
    db at X-band. That is lower as for a ferromagnetic lens. 😉
    The simplest configuration of the Radant lens is an E-plane scanning
    lens in which beam steering results from a linear phase gradient (along
    the E-plane dimension). This configuration provides one-dimensional
    electronic beam scanning. Two-dimensional electronic scanning can be
    achieved by cascading two Radant lenses.

    am i supposed to take this gibberish seriously?
    frankly, half knowledge is a dangerous thing, and your above post is a perfect example of strung together theories, tall tales and some ego massaging of captor-m being better than everything else out there…all of which i am least interested in.

    fyi, bars has no mixture of lenses and phase shifters…and your theoretical values are all paper claims. wheres the evidence, like i asked of the captor actually having your claimed gain? similar made up figures of theoretical maxima can be quoted for any radar from the bars to the apg-73 to the apg-63. what has been achieved is entirely different. so either post actual authoritative figures for the captor-m or quit wasting our time by pretending to be citing these details when you dont have them.

    i can as well spend time with serious posters like scorp et al instead of wading through your post above.

    in reply to: IRBIS and the detection of low RCS targets #2516124
    KKM57P
    Participant

    1*Your Radar wave travel only with light speed and the target reradiat not instantly your radarbeam. Your Radarbeam could move faster in x and y direction!
    2*As faster your beam travel as more time sidelobes and shift sidelobes produce your PESA. That trigger RWRs. 😉
    3*A Radar can not simultaneously transmit and receiving!
    4. Then is a ferrit lens a analog part and not digtal controlled!

    What is your Problem, theortical is 49db possible with a 70cm flat antenna. Therefor is the 36 db for a 1mtr Bars very very extrem low. 😉
    No wonder! The lenses produce each betwenn 2 and 3 db loss and you need one plane for x and one plane for the y direction. Than reflect the lens surface some energy back (~50%) to the transmitter. Than has the block converter 3db loss, that is pretty high. With a Perot front feed antenna has you only a antenna gain of 34db at a diameter of 1mtr. No wonder, the energy must twice through phasesifters for transmitting and receiving direction, that doubled the loss in the phaseshifters.

    in reply to: IRBIS and the detection of low RCS targets #2519755
    KKM57P
    Participant

    The Bars antenna is not only one Antenna.
    You can’t radiat L and X Band with the same dipol.
    g= Pi^2/Lambda^2 x D^2
    g= Gain
    Lambda= wave lenght
    D= Antenna diameter

    in reply to: IRBIS and the detection of low RCS targets #2520913
    KKM57P
    Participant

    The average power of Irbis is given 5KW, peak power – 20KW; a little greater final figures are maybe possible (lets say up to 10KW average).

    Russians already have a working AESA prototype – from Phazotron Zhuk AE.

    1. Averange power depends on duty cycle! First must you increase the Pulspower (peak power).

    2. Great is better.
    Not always.
    Nmax = 100* 0,5/(df/fo)!
    Or the bandwidth degrade!
    It’s no magic it’s physic!

    Captor M; Source Manufacturer
    Monopulsradar
    Antenna gain 42 dB
    * Antenna gain is 6 dB higher for Captor M as for a 1 mtr Bars!

    The antenna gain counts!

    Russians already have a working AESA prototype – from Phazotron Zhuk AE.
    How many T/R module? It’s a corse grid array!

    in reply to: FAA: Boeing's New 787 May Be Vulnerable to Hacker Attack #566384
    KKM57P
    Participant

    I imagine me a virus contaminated laptop or Palm.

    3 January 2008

    [Federal Register: January 2, 2008 (Volume 73, Number 1)]

    [Rules and Regulations]
    [Page 27-29]
    From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
    [DOCID:fr02ja08-5]

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    ———————————————————————–

    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

    Federal Aviation Administration

    14 CFR Part 25

    [Docket No. NM364 Special Conditions No. 25-356-SC]

    Special Conditions: Boeing Model 787-8 Airplane; Systems and Data
    Networks Security–Isolation or Protection From Unauthorized Passenger
    Domain Systems Access

    AGENCY: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), DOT.

    ACTION: Final special conditions.

    ———————————————————————–

    SUMMARY: These special conditions are issued for the Boeing Model 787-8
    airplane. This airplane will have novel or unusual design features when
    compared to the state of technology envisioned in the airworthiness
    standards for transport category airplanes. These novel or unusual
    design features are associated with connectivity of the passenger
    domain computer systems to the airplane critical systems and data
    networks. For these design features, the applicable airworthiness
    regulations do not contain adequate or appropriate safety standards for
    protection and security of airplane systems and data networks against
    unauthorized access. These special conditions contain the additional
    safety standards that the Administrator considers necessary to
    establish a level of safety equivalent to that established by the
    existing standards. Additional special conditions will be issued for
    other novel or unusual design features of the Boeing Model 787-8
    airplanes.

    DATES: Effective Date: February 1, 2008.

    FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Will Struck, FAA, Airplane and Flight
    Crew Interface, ANM-111, Transport Airplane Directorate, Aircraft
    Certification Service, 1601 Lind Avenue SW., Renton, Washington 98057-
    3356; telephone (425) 227-2764; facsimile (425) 227-1149.

    SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:

    Background

    On March 28, 2003, Boeing applied for an FAA type certificate for
    its new Boeing Model 787-8 passenger airplane. The Boeing Model 787-8
    airplane will be an all-new, two-engine jet transport airplane with a
    two-aisle cabin. The maximum takeoff weight will be 476,000 pounds,
    with a maximum passenger count of 381 passengers.

    Type Certification Basis

    Under provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 21.17,
    Boeing must show that Boeing Model 787-8 airplanes (hereafter referred
    to as “the 787”) meet the applicable provisions of 14 CFR part 25, as
    amended by Amendments 25-1 through 25-117, except Sec. Sec. 25.809(a)
    and 25.812, which will remain at Amendment 25-115. If the Administrator
    finds that the applicable airworthiness regulations do not contain
    adequate or appropriate safety standards for the 787 because of a novel
    or unusual design feature, special conditions are prescribed under
    provisions of 14 CFR 21.16.
    In addition to the applicable airworthiness regulations and special
    conditions, the 787 must comply with the fuel vent and exhaust emission
    requirements of 14 CFR part 34 and the noise certification requirements
    of part 36. The FAA must also issue a finding of regulatory adequacy
    pursuant to section 611 of Public Law 92-574, the “Noise Control Act
    of 1972.”
    The FAA issues special conditions, as defined in Sec. 11.19, under
    Sec. 11.38, and they become part of the type certification basis under
    Sec. 21.17(a)(2).
    Special conditions are initially applicable to the model for which
    they are issued. Should the type certificate for that model be amended
    later to include any other model that incorporates the same or similar
    novel or unusual design feature, the special conditions would also
    apply to the other model under Sec. 21.101.

    Novel or Unusual Design Features

    The digital systems architecture for the 787 consists of several
    networks connected by electronics and embedded software. This proposed
    network architecture is used for a diverse set of functions, including
    the following:
    1. Flight-safety-related control and navigation and required
    systems (Aircraft Control Domain).
    2. Airline business and administrative support (Airline Information
    Domain).
    3. Passenger entertainment, information, and Internet services
    (Passenger Information and Entertainment Domain).
    The proposed architecture of the 787 is different from that of
    existing production (and retrofitted) airplanes. It allows new kinds of
    passenger connectivity to previously isolated data networks connected
    to systems that perform functions required for the safe operation of
    the airplane. Because of this new passenger connectivity, the proposed
    data network design and integration may result in security
    vulnerabilities from intentional or unintentional corruption of data
    and systems critical to the safety and maintenance of the airplane. The
    existing regulations and guidance material did not anticipate this type
    of system architecture or electronic access to aircraft systems that
    provide flight critical functions. Furthermore, 14 CFR regulations and
    current system safety assessment policy and techniques do not address
    potential security vulnerabilities that could be caused by unauthorized
    access to aircraft data buses and servers. Therefore, special
    conditions are imposed to ensure that security, integrity, and
    availability of the aircraft systems and data networks are not
    compromised by certain wired or wireless electronic connections between
    airplane data buses and networks.

    Discussion of Comments

    Notice of Proposed Special Conditions No. 25-07-01-SC for the 787
    was published in the Federal Register on April 13, 2007 (72 FR 18597).
    One comment was received from the Air Line Pilots Association,
    International (ALPA) and several from Airbus.
    ALPA Comment: ALPA strongly recommended that a backup
    means must also be provided for the flightcrew to disable passengers’
    ability to connect to these specific systems.
    FAA Response: These special conditions apply to the design of
    airplane systems and networks, and would not preclude a security
    mitigation strategy that provides a means for the flightcrew to disable
    passenger connectivity to the networks or to disable access to specific
    systems connected to the airplane networks. However, the FAA would
    prefer not to dictate specific design features to the applicant but
    rather to allow applicants the flexibility to determine the appropriate
    security protections and means to address all potential vulnerabilities
    and risks posed by allowing this access. For example, the security
    protection response to a suspected network security violation could
    result in–
    The system automatically disabling passenger access to the
    network or certain functions,
    Flight deck annunciation and flightcrew disabling of
    passenger access to certain systems or capabilities, or
    Various combinations of the above.
    AIRBUS General Comment 1: In Airbus’s opinion these
    special conditions leave too much room for interpretation, and related
    guidance and acceptable means of compliance should be developed in an
    advisory circular for use by future applicants.
    FAA Response: We agree that guidance is necessary and specific,
    detailed compliance guidelines and

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    criteria have been developed for this aircraft certification program,
    specific to this airplane’s network architecture and design, providing
    initial guidance on an acceptable means of compliance for the 787.
    Additionally, the FAA intends to participate in an industry committee
    chartered with developing acceptable means of compliance to address
    aircraft network security issues, and hopes to endorse the results of
    the work of that committee by issuing an advisory circular (AC). Until
    such time as guidance is developed for a general means of compliance
    for network security protection, these special conditions and the
    agreed-to guidance are imposed on this specific network architecture
    and design.
    AIRBUS Comment (a): Airbus stated that the requirement in
    the proposed special conditions is not “high level” enough because it
    considers a solution or an architecture. Airbus believes that criteria
    or assumptions for defining the domains are missing (for example,
    systems criticality, interfaces, rationale for the need to protect one
    domain from another one, trust levels * * *). The commenter maintained
    that the Aircraft Control Domain (ACD), Airline Information Domain
    (AID) and Passenger Information and Entertainment Domain (PIED) need to
    be precisely defined.
    FAA Response: We do not agree that the requirement in the proposed
    special conditions prescribes a solution or an architecture. These
    special conditions and the acceptable means of compliance were
    developed based on the Boeing-proposed 787 network architecture and
    connectivity between the Passenger Information and Entertainment Domain
    and the Aircraft Control Domain and Airline Information Domain. The
    applicant is responsible for the design of the airplane network and
    systems architecture and for ensuring that potential security
    vulnerabilities of providing passenger access to airplane networks and
    systems are mitigated to an appropriate level of assurance, depending
    on the potential risk to the airplane and occupant safety. This
    responsibility is similar to that entailed in the current system safety
    assessment process of 14 CFR 25.1309. (See also AC 25.1309-1A and the
    ARAC-recommended Arsenal version of this AC, which can be found at
    http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/committees/arac/media/tae/TAE_SDA_T2.pdf
    , and SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers)

    ARP (Aerospace Recommended Practice) 4754). We believe the general
    definitions for the airplane network “domains” are sufficient for
    these special conditions.
    AIRBUS Comment (b): Airbus stated that in the sentence
    “The design shall prevent all inadvertent or malicious changes to, and
    all adverse impacts * * *”, the wording “shall prevent ALL” can be
    interpreted as a zero allowance. According to the commenter,
    demonstration of compliance with such a requirement during the entire
    life cycle of the aircraft is quite impossible because security threats
    evolve very rapidly. The only possible solution to such a requirement
    would be to physically segregate the Passenger Information and
    Entertainment Domain from the other domains. This would mean, for
    example, no shared resources like SATCOM (satellite communications),
    and no network connections. Airbus maintained that such a solution is
    not technically and operationally viable, saying that a minimum of
    communications is always necessary. Airbus preferred a less categorical
    requirement which allows more flexibility and does not prevent possible
    residual vulnerabilities if they are assessed as acceptable from a
    safety point of view. Airbus said this security assessment could be
    based on a security risk analysis process during the design,
    validation, and verification of the systems architecture that assesses
    risks as either acceptable or requiring mitigations even through
    operational procedures if necessary. Airbus noted that this process,
    based on similarities with the SAE ARP 4754 safety process, is already
    proposed by the European Organization for Civil Aviation Equipment
    (EUROCAE) Working Group 72 for consideration of safety risks posed by
    security threats or by the FAA through the document “National Airspace
    System Communication System Safety Hazard Analysis and Security Threat
    Analysis,” version v1.0, dated Feb. 21, 2006. Airbus said such a
    security risk analysis process could be used as an acceptable means of
    compliance addressed by an advisory circular.
    FAA Response: We agree that Airbus’s interpretation of zero
    allowance for any “inadvertent or malicious changes to, and all
    adverse impacts” to airplane systems, networks, hardware, software,
    and data is correct. However, this does not prevent allowing
    appropriate access if the design incorporates robust security
    protection means and procedures to prevent inadvertent and intentional
    actions that could adversely impact airplane systems, functionality,
    and airworthiness. Airbus commented that “a minimum of communications
    is always necessary.” Unauthorized users, however, must not be allowed
    communication access to aircraft systems and equipment in such a way
    that inadvertent or intentional actions can have any adverse impact on
    the aircraft systems, equipment, and data. Technology exists which
    allows sharing of resources without allowing unauthorized access and
    inappropriate actions to systems and data. As previously mentioned,
    detailed compliance guidelines and criteria, specific to the 787
    network architecture, have been developed into an acceptable means of
    compliance for this airplane certification program. In addition, we
    intend to participate in future related industry committees (such as
    SAE S-18, which is currently revising ARP 4754, EUROCAE Working Group
    72, and RTCA (RTCA, Incorporated; formerly Radio Technical Commission
    for Aeronautics) Special Committee 216). These groups will be
    developing additional aircraft network security guidance, and we hope
    to be able to endorse the results of their efforts as an acceptable
    means of compliance for network security issues on future aircraft
    certification programs.
    AIRBUS Comment (c): Airbus said that this requirement is
    limited to the design (“The design shall prevent all inadvertent or
    malicious changes * * * ”), but security solutions are always
    dependent on organizational procedures. Airbus said that because the
    efficiency of a security solution relies on the weakest link in the
    overall chain (design, operations, organizations, processes, * * *),
    the robustness of the design may be impaired (by, for instance, cabin
    crew interfaces being used by unauthorized passengers) if equivalent
    security requirements are not mandated for other involved parties, as,
    for example, through an operational or maintenance approval.
    FAA Response: The applicant is responsible for developing a design
    compliant with these special conditions and other applicable
    regulations. The design may include specific technology and
    architecture features, as well as operator requirements, operational
    procedures and security measures, and maintenance procedures and
    requirements, to ensure an appropriate implementation that can be
    properly used and maintained to ensure safe operations and continued
    operational safety. These special conditions do not preclude
    organizational, process, operational, monitoring, or maintenance
    procedures and requirements from being part of the design to ensure
    security protection. As with other aircraft models, the operator is
    obligated to

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    operate and maintain the aircraft in conformance with regulations and
    with requirements for operation and maintenance of the product.
    AIRBUS Comment (d): Airbus noted that the special
    conditions consider only interference between the Passenger Information
    and Entertainment Domain (PIED) and the Airline Information Domain or
    Aircraft Control Domain. It notes there is no requirement for
    protecting the Aircraft Control Domain from the Airline Information
    Domain, if this one is considered less trusted than the Aircraft
    Control Domain. As an example, it said that the Airline Information
    Domain could implement portable electronic flight bags.
    FAA Response: These special conditions address only the interfaces
    between the passenger domain (PIED) and other aircraft systems and
    networks. Other interfaces and accesses are addressed by current
    regulations and policy, and by another proposed special conditions.
    AIRBUS Comment (e): Airbus said that, depending on the
    meaning of “unauthorized external access,” these special conditions
    may be redundant to proposed special conditions 25-07-02-SC (see
    comment “b” about 25-07-02-SC).
    FAA Response: These special conditions are not redundant. The
    passenger PIED and its security implementation are part of the airplane
    model and type design, and are not considered “external” to the
    aircraft. In reviewing the Boeing-proposed 787 network architecture and
    design during development of these special conditions, we determined
    the need for two separate special conditions. To ensure appropriate
    security protection of the aircraft and its systems, one special
    condition was needed for access from the passenger domain, and one for
    access from sources external to the airplane.
    AIRBUS proposed text revision: Airbus proposed the
    following revised wording for these special conditions.

    The applicant shall ensure that security threats from all points
    within the Passenger Information and Entertainment Domain, are
    identified and risk mitigation strategies are implemented to protect
    the Aircraft Control Domain and Airline Information Services Domain
    from adverse impacts reducing the aircraft safety.

    FAA Response: As noted previously, the purpose of these special
    conditions is to ensure security protection from all inadvertent or
    malicious changes to, and all adverse impacts to, airplane systems,
    networks, hardware, software, and data from accesses through the
    passenger domain. We do not believe the commenter’s proposal is
    specific enough to achieve this purpose, and we will retain the current
    wording.

    Applicability

    As discussed above, these special conditions are applicable to the
    787. Should Boeing apply at a later date for a change to the type
    certificate to include another model on the same type certificate
    incorporating the same novel or unusual design features, these special
    conditions would apply to that model as well.

    Conclusion

    This action affects only certain novel or unusual design features
    of the 787. It is not a rule of general applicability.

    List of Subjects in 14 CFR Part 25

    Aircraft, Aviation safety, Reporting and recordkeeping
    requirements.

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    The authority citation for these special conditions is as follows:

    Authority: 49 U.S.C. 106(g), 40113, 44701, 44702, 44704.

    The Special Conditions

    Accordingly, pursuant to the authority delegated to me by the
    Administrator, the following special conditions are issued as part of
    the type certification basis for the Boeing Model 787-8 airplane.

    The design shall prevent all inadvertent or malicious changes
    to, and all adverse impacts upon, all systems, networks, hardware,
    software, and data in the Aircraft Control Domain and in the Airline
    Information Domain from all points within the Passenger Information
    and Entertainment Domain.

    Issued in Renton, Washington, on December 21, 2007.
    Ali Bahrami,
    Manager, Transport Airplane Directorate, Aircraft Certification
    Service.
    [FR Doc. E7-25467 Filed 12-31-07; 8:45 am]

    BILLING CODE 4910-13-P

    in reply to: IRBIS and the detection of low RCS targets #2522551
    KKM57P
    Participant

    The shifting of the beam of Bars/Irbis is said to be around 0.4 milliseconds.

    Really not 0,4msec 😉

    Key specifications: Bars Antenna System; Source Manufacturer
    1. Aperture diameter, 1m
    2. Frequency belt within X- and L-bands, 6%
    3. AS characteristics within the X-band:
    anenna gain, 36dB
    beam movement timeline, 400 msec
    number of formed beam types 12
    level of the first side lobes, -25dB
    medium level of the far-out side lobes, – 48dB
    width* of the main beam, 2.4°

    *Beam Width

    The angular range of the antenna pattern in which at least half of the maximum power is still emitted is described as a „Beam With”. Bordering points of this major lobe are therefore the points at which the field strength has fallen in the room around 3 dB regarding the maximum field strength.

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