I have a feeling Australia will go for more European hardware like Typhoons or Rafales, they need a quick replacement for their F-18s and probably by 2010 but the problem with F-35 is that it probably wont be available to Australia till 2015-2020 unless they set up their own productiopn line.
I think the best and the cheapest thing to do would be to developed the lightweight fighter from a trainer. Perhaps they can get with Yakovlev and develop a nice small multirole fighter out of Yak-130, give it a new engine, few structural changes, new avionics to give it compatibility with newer weapons and therey ou have a nice small cheap multirole fighter.
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Mig-29 is not any better than Su-27, I don’t see why China should’ve gotten the Mig-29.
That’s also PSed, it’s either a Bulgarian or Romanian Mig-29.
Yes, and i have a feeling the Su-27 upgrade will also get frozen.
I think the factory price is said to be around 10mn/plane.
Phantoms are UGLY
Anyways, Tornado is porbably not my fav but this is far by the most beautiful color scheme I have seen on ANYTHING
-so in total it should have 6 underwing hardpoints, 2 under fuselage hardpoints and 2 wingtip pylons for shorter ranged missiles like R-73 and other stuff
-give it good multimode radar inside
-arm it with all kinds of ASMs
-it’s single seat and as you can see the cockpit has been greatly lowered and therefore should decrease drag
-since you should give it one more powerful engine rather than two weaker ones, this should increase range, speed and payloadm. I’d expect it’s speed to be around mach 1.4, payload should be increased by another 500kgs and range should be increased because not only you’d have one engine but since I removed the second seat you’d have mor space for fuel
-give it all kinds of avionics like datalink, HMS with R-73 and all kinds of other stuff.
Yes but that would take a lot more time and money to develop, Yak-130 is good as it is and would just require a few more changes
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You sound like you don’t know what you want.. what kind of capabilities are you looking for, because the Yak-130 is first and foremost a TRAINER with NO BVR capability.. to suggest an air force to adopt the Yak-130 to replace their MiG-21/F-5/etc is absurd.. especially when the FC-1 (which is about the same weight as the T-50), offers a BVR advantage, not to mention what the MiG-29 can do.
The Yak-130 is a good plane, yes.. and a trainer able to fill a market that lacks advance aircraft with high AOA.. but it does not mean it’ll make a good light multi role aircraft that can compete with other light combat aircraft with out extensive modifications of the structure that you want..which would involve costs and time.
Furthermore aircraft such as the Hawk 200 which is a combat aircraft derived from an advance trainer, hasn’t been selling very well..with the two sole users preferring to adopt REAL combat aircraft. While the AMX, also a smaller subsonic aircraft designed for combat, isn’t selling that well either, with the cost per unit being greater than the MiG-29 and as much as an F-16 from Italian reports.
further more I suggest you come down from the “what-ifs” mode, because one can certainly see the potential if you changed a little of this, add a little of that.. but in reality it is much different.
now some questions for you if you don’t mind..
how much do you think the Yak-130 will cost, and how much do you think it will cost after extensive modification to make it into the aircraft you want.
how much do you think the FC-1 and the F-50 will cost
and what kind of capabilities do you want.
Dude, are you reading what I said above? I said that it needs alot of changes to be able to compete with T/F/A-50 stuff like. read:
-single seat
-more powerful engines
-few more hardpoints
-perhaps a larger wing
-stretched fuselage for more fuel
-allow it to carry wide array of Russia Air to surface and air to air weapons as well as some more Western weapons
-arm is with at least a good radar to allow it to fire R-77 and other weapons
However Yak-130 would need some structural changes, maybe different wing, stronger engines, and as soon as you remove the second seat and make space for more fuel you got more range, and probably you can even stretch the fuselage a little more. Maybe add 2 more hardpoints somewhere under the fuselage and you got 2 wingtip pylons for R-73 and you got the rest of the hardpoints for other weapons.
If Yakovlev ever developed a light fighter out of it, a single seat and etc then it could be very good.
It should be single seat, by removing the second seat would create a lot more space for fuel, give it stronger engines or give it just one strong engine instead of two, give it the necessary avionics like much better radar with BVR capability to fire R-77 and other Russian ASMs, also possibly make some other structural changes to the wing or something to allow it to fly supersonically and maybe add some more hardpoints under the fuselage/under the wings and there you got yourself a very nice light single seat cheap multirole fighter all under 20mn probably that can also be bought with not only Russian weapons and avionics but Western stuff too.
Well the Yak-130 is a lot smaller than the T/F/A-50 I think
Well FC-1 isn’t that modern comapred to T/F/A-50 nor is it a light weight nor is a Mig-29 a light weight.
Yak-130 is already a good plane, it has a decent range, very good payload for it’s size(3000kgs), something like 7 hardpoints and it’s speed is almost supersonic. However, the biggest problem I see with T/F/A-50 is it’s cost and weapons that would come with it. I don’t know the cost of it but I have a feeling it will be pretty expensive and with the weapons it would come with like AIM-120 and JDAM then you need US approval for that. Perhaps South Korea can make it compatable with Russian weapons and avionics or even Chinese and make SD-10/R-77/other Chinese/Russian ASMs compatable with it
However Yak-130 would need some structural changes, maybe different wing, stronger engines, and as soon as you remove the second seat and make space for more fuel you got more range, and probably you can even stretch the fuselage a little more. Maybe add 2 more hardpoints somewhere under the fuselage and you got 2 wingtip pylons for R-73 and you got the rest of the hardpoints for other weapons.
Yak-130 would be significantly cheaper than T/F/A-50 probably and would not come with all those political demands, even if it is currently better.
Anyways if they could just put in one engine I think Yak-130 would be much better, not only probably faster but with much bigger range and better payload and easier to maintain.
I thought Yak-130 was barely supersonic.
Anyways like i said more powerful engines would be better, or maybe a single strong engine since two engines are very fuel thristy but that would take too much money to change I think or maybe not.
Anyways stronger engines and refined wing and it should be able to go supersonic easily.
I doubt F/A-50 would have a better chance than MAKO or Yak-130 because F/A-50 would be using mostly American weapons like AIm-120 and JDAM which can only be sold to American friendly countries, but Russia would sell their weapons to anyone. MAKO would also have problems because it comes with European weapons and thats also a problem.
Yak-130 fighter would have a better chance because it would probably be much cheaper(it’d be produced in Russia) and not only comes with Russian weapons and avionics but also some western stuff.
I think the biggest disadvantage of Yak-130 over F/A-50 is that it’s a twin engined and currently it’s slower and has smaller range.
I heard Norweigan F-16s are cracking up in the cold, was F-16 right for those colder conditions? Can anything similar like M2K survive those kind of cold conditions?
In Kaliningrad, there are Su-24s, Tu-22Ms and Su-27s stationed there.
In Leningrad Military District:
Ostrov: Tu-22Ms, Su-24s
Pushkin-3: Su-33s, Su-24s
Siverskoye/Gdov:Su-24
Besovets – Petrozavodsk-15/Lodeynoye Pole: Su-27