-F-35 Hawk and F-35 Sea Hawk(for navies) :P.(if theres a Hawk out there[other than the Hawk trainer] then name it Hawk II
-Thunderbird sounds VERY nice
-F-35 Black Ghost
Although politically the F-15K was a better plane because it’s American and it would be easier to support, although not maintain it would also make more sense to buy it from the guys that saved their ass 50 years ago, however militarily they would not get the Rafale before teh F-15K, the Rafale is better plane overall no doubt about it but the F-15K is a better bombtruck and better weapons come with it.
Mig-33 was designated to the cheap light multirole fighter designed to replace Mig-21s all over World, but it was cancelled. Some people also like to call Mig-29M/M2 Mig-33. However no one seems to call Mig-35 anything other than MFI 1.44.
I am amazed at Mig 1.44’s internal bays, it has 12 internal hardpoints, WOW:eek:
AFAIR F-35 has 4 internal hardpoints and how many does F-22 have? 12 internal hardpoints, thats alot.
I think they should’ve remade the Mig 1.44 into PAK-FA, though change quite a few things. remove the vertical tails, leave it as a large vertically tailless delta, could have 2D TVC engines with no canards(would’ve been stealthier) or simply normal TVC engines with canards. Also refine it and shape it carefully and there you have it.
The last major war in SA was not long ago between Ecuador and Peru, which seem to be involved in an Arms race.
Chile doesn’t seem to be very liked down in SA and they have a long coast and strip of land to protect.
I agree most of those Eastern European Airforces are slowly fading away with the exception of Poland. Czech Republic will only have a few Mig-29s and Gripens in the future, Romanian, Bulgarian, all ex Yugoslavian, Slovakian Afs are all disappearing slowly. Slovakia will only have 12 upgraded Mig-29s in the future. Poland will have 48 F-16blk50s and I belive some 40-50 Mig-29s.
I don’t think they care how it looks as long as it performs how it’s sopposed to.
Chile has a decent AF, I don’t think that 10 F-16blk50 with Phalcons are enough to deter Brazil in the future which already too has AWACS, large number of AMXs and in the future either Su-35s or M2K-BRs. Peru too has M2Ks and Mig-29s which can launch R-77s.
hasn’t this been discussed to death? Why bring it up again? Why can’t you just stay on topic and discuss what the thread is about? “South Korean F-15K configuration”
Originally posted by dirtyharry
Gentlemen:China must thanks israel alot alot to their efforts of helping the J10 project! Because China’s aircraft were taught to be look like russians: J8 China’s Ye152a/ J8II China’s Su15s and JH7 China’s Tornado in Su24’s size. It was Israel helped China building a fighter that met the west standard except the engine was Russian! I dont think J10 will export because China has a great demands over that fighter to replace those J7,J6,J8 those clumsy soviet planes and there wasnt such a reason to do so in the forseeable future!
About the FC1,it was designed to Pakistan soley because Pakistan is a very important ally and the PAF has a very limited funds even they have,the PAF will spend on Mirages first instead. FC1 will provide a quantity satisfication to the PAF.Like the precessors J6/A5/J7G. The FC1 served as a quantites asircraft,so there is no way PAF will get J10.Maybe PAF is talking with Quatar for their surplus Mirages!
What I think is the PLAAF/N is seeking a successor to replace the Flankers. Because J10 is a interm fighter,it doesnt have stealth capability and at most it wasF16C/D block 50 levels China is still behind the schedule if compared to raptor or JSF.The all round Chinese made fighter is due to born in a forseeable future,hopefully will get the one J-XX in next decade.Read more from Kanwa but dont be too serious about Pinkov’s remarks!:D
There is no proof whatsoever that J-10 is a Lavi copy, no PROOF, none at all, even if they look alike. That’s like saying LCA is a Mirage 2000 copy, which it is not but I am just making a point, we cannot judge them based on looks.
The PLAAF is rejecting the FC-1 because there is no space for it, J-10 will replace all the older fighters except J-8 which will stay in service for some time, J-10 too is a low end fighter and there is no need for FC-1. However PLANAF is interested in the FC-1 as it seems so.
I strongly believe it will be the PAK-FA that will be put on Carriers.
Also it really doesnt mention what the ship’s weight should be.(tons)
It’s not the Mig-21 pilots, it’s the airframe life thats pretty much ran out/running out, it’s done, Mig-21s have served enough.
I’d say they should ground all their Mig-21s, save some money and wait for LCA.
If it’s more expensive than Rafale/Typhoon then I’d never buy it, if theres not at least a 15mn price difference between the Typhoon/Rafale and F-16blk60 then I would never buy it.
theres nothing that says no twin engined aircraft, just the weight limit. Yes the Mig-29M/M2 is the best option.
I dont know 2008-2009 for mass production seems a little late, Mig-21s need to be retired urgently.
Originally posted by PLA
all other options not good enough? F16… We know US deals… Sorry the Pakistnai and Indonesian know it… That should be enough warning if we remember the software delivery for the LCA program. The mig29 is Russian. I don’t think India wants to rely on one delivery. They will go for French-Russian inventory. The french are known and the IAF has some experience end toosl for this bird.
uhhh why do you say because it’s Russian? and what do you mean on one delivery?
1. US supplied F16’s would carry == cost + no guarantee of spares if needed. (BTW is this news really true? – not sure)
F-16s are not that cheap F-16blk50s have been sold anywhere form 50-70mn, what makes you think India will get them for less
2. M2K more expensive and while the French have been reliable suppliers to us in the past, there is no guarantee they will be in the future. The case of delaying shipments of Argentinian Exocets comes to mind.
True and I think they will be in the future but they are still expensive
3. Mig29 cheaper; same capability as the M2K – but spares reliability is not there again. Also questionable if Mig will survive!?
Weighing all options my personal opinion is Mig29 since it is cheeaper with similar capability as the M2K. Spares reliability can be worked out.
I agree the only thing that worries me is MiG but I think they will last longer, I just wonder how long they’ll be able to supply spare parts to everyone
I would opt for more mki… but looking at the options the m2k is favourable
MKI is not an option, lol read the requirements for the newer fighter, MKI is too heavy.
Why M2K can you explain?