No i noticed it too the tail and intakes look F15 ish.
An artist’s impression of the first IAC (aka INS Vikrant)
Courtesy: Shiv Aroor’s Live Fist
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/02/artists-impression-of-new-ins-vikrant.html

I doubt they will supply engines to any front line fighters now. 🙂
I doubt they will supply engines to any front line fighters now. 🙂
The answer for that is they will all offer the amount of ToT speciefied in the RFP. I think it will come down to the trials…really.
The answer for that is they will all offer the amount of ToT speciefied in the RFP. I think it will come down to the trials…really.
Due to flankers open-ended archiecture, It can be upgraded with weapons and avionics from various countries. So we can get the best of Europe, Israel and Russia to Flanker besides indigenous avonics. Thats the basic advantage for MKI. My point is there is no need buy new MMRCA to bridge any gap, MKI itself can be upgraded into one. This is unless we want SH with Radars, Missiles and munitions.
Yes but only to a certan level and can have problems that comes with it. For example if is hard to imagine that france will offer the best tech to us for the MKI as it does on the Rafale.
and vice versa.
I am not saying otherwise just saying that many of the Radars onboard the MRCA contenders can match surpass the BARS.
Due to flankers open-ended archiecture, It can be upgraded with weapons and avionics from various countries. So we can get the best of Europe, Israel and Russia to Flanker besides indigenous avonics. Thats the basic advantage for MKI. My point is there is no need buy new MMRCA to bridge any gap, MKI itself can be upgraded into one. This is unless we want SH with Radars, Missiles and munitions.
Yes but only to a certan level and can have problems that comes with it. For example if is hard to imagine that france will offer the best tech to us for the MKI as it does on the Rafale.
and vice versa.
I am not saying otherwise just saying that many of the Radars onboard the MRCA contenders can match surpass the BARS.
Hmmm… let’s see, buy her for a poultry $20m, and then outfit her for $2bn (i.e. ’29Ks, Rafales, Super-Hornets etc. once steam cats. have been installed & ski jump/VLS removed)…:)
Still number of aircraft will remain the same. It has to do with basic design flaws. CDG is of similar tonnage compared to the Vicky but she can carry 30-40 planes 😎
dude flanker has Bars Radar, its comparable to even modern AESA inservice. actually i believe none of MMRCA contendors can come close to MKI excluding may be SuperHornet.
Yes the Bars and the Ibris E are very capable. Radar is only one of techs I mentioned there is a lot more than that which we don;t have. Why do you think we are insistent on ToT. I think the Rafale, EF and Super Hornet will give the Su 30 a run for its money in BVR. 🙂
dude flanker has Bars Radar, its comparable to even modern AESA inservice. actually i believe none of MMRCA contendors can come close to MKI excluding may be SuperHornet.
Yes the Bars and the Ibris E are very capable. Radar is only one of techs I mentioned there is a lot more than that which we don;t have. Why do you think we are insistent on ToT. I think the Rafale, EF and Super Hornet will give the Su 30 a run for its money in BVR. 🙂
The Indian MoD should have usurped the Chinese and pounced on the Varyag in the 90s. They could have outfitted her at their own pace & cost, inviting tenders from Western yards & naval specialists, think of the awesome air-wing the IN could have deployed aboard her.
What awesome airwing are you talking about. 12 Su 33s instead of 12 MiG 29Ks. We would have had to pay for the Su 33 upgrades (as current ones are obsolete) as well. The Russians may not have been keen to sell us naval fighters alone if we got the carrier from ukraine.
Really the Varyag is just heavier but almost carries the same amount of aircraft as the Vicky….so the talk of a bigger airwing is 🙂
I say cancel the bloody order and ask to give back the money and go for some other ship or strike a deal with some country to let the crew train on their ACs (dont need to operational ones) till the IAC comes out.
The problem is Russia can really hurt India because we are too dependent on them. If they take this grudge to other products ie. Imagine them refusing to supply spares for Su 30s.
Every Human Makes Mistakes and Sweetman is only Human 🙂
Every Human Makes Mistakes and Sweetman is only Human 🙂
The above is a logistics and maintenance issue only. Su-30 MKI can also be made to be “hassle free” in terms of maintenance etc.
Su-30 MKI will also be equipped with all types of A2G weapons, especially HARM-type missiles, precision guided munitions, Brahmos missile, etc.
Lifecycle costs for Russian Jets are higher than that of American jets. The Russian array of A2G weaponary is also quantitatively and Qualitatively inferior to its western counter parts. This is especially true with PGMs and bunker busters.
As per DRDO, Tejas will have significant sensor fusion. As Tejas’ technologies have extensively been adapted and tested on Su-30 MKI, it is likely that Su-30 MKI shall also be equipped with this too.
Which is very good to know but i doubt the Tejas or Su 30 will be able to compare with the latest American/European tech. ToT for MRCA is to bridge the gap in this regard. Let us first see MK2 specs atleast before commending on sensor fusion.
With the exception of AESA radar, Tejas will be at par with all other MRCA contenders in terms of Litening targetting pod (used in F-16 Sufa), datalink & networking, EW (Siva pod), RWR, sensor fusion, HMDS, IRST etc.
Since the fuselage will be redesigned, it is likely to allow for additional weapon stations under the fuselage, as it did for Gripen-NG.
I severely doubt as to the Tejas MK2 will be as good as the Gripen NG. It don’t need to be and I don’t think it will be, like I said let us wait and see.
he above is inaccurate. As discussed earlier on the same topic, Mr. Pogosyan of Sukhoi stated that only a “broad” agreement has been reached after 2 years and a “detailed” agreement is only “hoped” to be reached by 2009 end. He stated that, they’ll “try” to include a 50-50 contrib from India in the “detailed” agreement that they hope to reach.
It will be 50-50 the link was posted by Otaku in another thread where he clearly states it will be a 50-50 joint venture. I don’t feel like digging up the thread at the moment.