Wasn’t it you who claimed:
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And BTW I checked the thread and found no youtube link concerning the APG-80, feel free to post the link in your next post. And please note that I’m talking about the F-16E/F block 60 Desert Falcon operated by the UAE, not about the F-16IN which isn’t operational, let alone existing in a production representive form.

Yes this is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkBKX5f5NI&feature=related

Notice the importance given to EW.

Swerve & Sintra

About the “superior EW capabilities that comes with an AESA radar”, if you are mentioning offensive capability, i am sorry to disapoint you (and a lot of other of people) we are still something like a full decade for the IOC of the first sqn with that kind of tricks (yep, the Boeing brochures about the AN/APG-79 have been a bit too optimistic), and the AN/APG-80 was never designed for that kind of jobs. If you are speaking of ECCM, writing about the relative merits of the AN/APG-80/CAPTOR with numbers in a public forum would get someone arrested, we simply dont have nothing to base a comparison. Finnaly if we are speaking of LPI, no doubt that the AN/APG80 has a lot more potential.

see the video above, why would some one claim something that does not exist ??

Well in that forum and this many others people have made educated guesses on the range of the respective radars, but no one has given conclusive data saying this one has better range. Because of the lack of clear evidence supporting either claims. I guess one can believe the one he chooses to believe, and for me an AESA which is not much different from the APG 79 has the edge over the captor.

Btw where does Toan say the ranges are the same ? This is how he concludes in his post.

1. According to the formula for the relationship between RCS and the detective range, the Captor radar should be able to track the target of RCS= 1m2 class 110~125 km+ away theoretically.

2. According to the formula for the relationship between RCS and the detective range, the APG-80 radar should be able to track the target of RCS= 0.05 ~ 0.25 m2 class 50~80 km away theoretically.

See the difference in RCS as well.

And there is no evidence of the Captor being superior to APG 80 either. Actually there was a youtube link a few pages back which shows the EW capabilities of APG 80/block 60.

I doubt there is a source you’d accept which wouldn’t get the person providing the information arrested.

You are being sarcastic for no reason now. I am simply asking for a source, even Wikipedia will do….:rolleyes:

BVR mostly according to greg its in the HAF and Rafale threads if you want to read.

Iran would be a slightly more difficult invasion prospect then Iraq.

Yes but would need less convincing as Zionists are prominent across the two parties. 😉

MIGs chances are being touted up recently, rather disturbingly….I would have the cheaper Gripen over EF and Rafale if we go European.

How about a block 60 with AESA armed with AIM 120 D :-??. I think in BVR the edge will be slight and in WVR total………..

Oman I believe. Not trying to be a troll/anti-american, infact im very much the reverse, but apparently the F-16 as quoted “have failed to live up to expectations” hence possible EF purchase.

The reason may well be the Saudis getting the EF. EF should have absolute superiority in an a2a role especially vs non AESA f 16s. So it would make sense to go for EF of your own.