Why are we still wasting our time with these two?? They’r jokers…
33 million dollars just to fly the planes per year…is “doable” in your opinion??? :rolleyes: Interesting…And 150 hours per year?? Hmm…Serbia’s AF trying to take on the US these days for who has the highest flying hours?? MiG-29 pilots were lucky if they got 20 hours a year in the past 20 years…you’r telling us 150 a year now?? Interesting…lol…another Venik pipedream. BTW did those Kilo subs get delivered yet or what??
Yes the new hangar has been build several years back…The caption in the photo said Rinas…though could be Vlora because of the palm trees.
The same way U.S. kept saying they destroyed 70% of Serbias Tanks, Airdefences, and itwas latter proven they only destroyed 13 Tanks and destroyed 10% of Serbs airdefences.
I’m sorry…that didn’t answer my question 🙂 Can you try again please…how did 5,000+ people and the 1 million living withing 5km of the airport…not notice or hear anything??? Did NATO 10 billion dollars also buy earplugs for everyone there…including me??
The new project and building have nothing to do with the military side of the airport. They include new passanger terminal, new cargo terminal and a new control tower….for the civilian side.
The military side IS in fact being upgraded…and has been already…but that is an MoD project. And it doesn’t include any expansion or anything of the sort…more along the lines of command and control.
Kucova and Pish Porro on the other hand have also been upgraded…Pish Porro in Vlora being enlarged…and probably to be used as the main training center for the remaining CJ-6s…and I don’t know if the remaining MIG-17UTIs will be moved there or not. They operate in Rinas right now along with the An-2s. Kucova I don’t know…at the moment it only serves to store aircraft collected from other bases…as well as as a repair facility and now also for the helicopters (Bell production line for parts for the helicopters). I don’t know what the Turkish modernization of the base involved besides that.
Gjader on the other hand still stores a large number of aircraft in its tunnels…and will be turned into an Aviation Museum…
MiG-17gate-guard at Rinas…I think there are 3 gate-guards in total…2 MiG-19s and this MiG-17.
Can you hear explosions from 5kms?
Oh YES!!! Lets see…several 100-250kg bombs going off?? anti-aircraft supposedly firing on them (didn’t mr. Venik claim one Serb plane shot down in that raid…or was it in the other heroic raid on Tuzla airport?? lol)
There were about 2,000 US and other soldiers stationed in that base…there were alos hundreds of Albanian Army soldiers stationed in that base. There were deaily hundreds of Albanian civilians outside the base for work there…and…there are hundreds of farm houses around the airport of locals who live there.
Here’s a pic:

Now…the Serbs…Mr.Venik, the Russian MoD and every respectible source there is…says that Serb aircraft bombed Rinas airport and destroyed 18 Apaches on the ground. This event MUST have been witnessed by about 5,000 people at the very least…ranging from US soldiers, to Albanian soldiers, to thousands of local Albanian civilians. Now…in Albania we don’t have the habit of keeping all too many secrets…especially if they’r not ours to keep. So how is it that even now…7 years later…there’s not a word about this from any of thsoe 5,000 people who must have witnessed this incident?? Not even in Albania…and the 1 million people who live in the vicinity of Rinas airport…most only a few km away (there are closer towns to Rinas than Tirana which is 5km away…there is Vora for example which is only about 1-2km away)…never heard anything of what was going on, never saw any aircraft in the sky…nothing??
I would VERY MUCH like an explonation from you Clear War….HOW this event is being covered up. We do agree that this event did in fact happen right?? I have no bones against that ;)…I’m with you…it happened…I just want to know how exactly those NATO liers kept me from knowing about it for so long until I read it in Venik’s page…and it was later confirmed to me by the Russian MoD. Please tell me Clear War!
Oh Jesus…there are no 700-800 US POWS in Korea still…lol…
This is funny…let me cause some more trouble now…Clear War…what can you tell me about the Serbian AF’s raid on Rinas AFB in Albania that destroyed 18 Apaches on the ground. How was that covered up from the world?? I’ll tell you a secret…I was in Albania at the time…Rinas AFB is about 5km from where I live. Please explain to me HOW was it possible to cover up that event from happening…from my own eyes??
I eagerly await your answer…
Anyone else notice it is actually a GLIDER? It has no engine…
Which of these systems is Russia planning on putting into service?? Or are they just for export?? I mean the Uran ground launchers, Moskit ground launchers, Yakhont and such??
There is a guy out there on the net…can’t remember his name or contact info…who was the test pilot who launched the first cruise missile from a Tu-160 bomber…he said it achieved pin-point accuracy on that first launch he made
Well maybe you should read what we post before accusing anyone of crap….understand??
How true is this claim…
How is that a “claim”??…when we have already reported this same news in the last page of this very thread??
6 will join with the Armed Forces…4 with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and 2 with other government agencies.
And speaking of Mig-29s,Germans truly showed what the these airplanes are capable of in numerous exercises with NATO and other airforces
German MiG-29s did not operate under Soviet tackics…but rather the pilots were allowed to come up with their own tacticks…more along the lines of NATO practices. Plus the F-16s/F-15s were not allowed to engage with BVR missiles…the engagements were only WVR…where yes the MiG-29 has an advantage…but in reality those birds would have been splashed long distance away with AMRAAMs. So no…German MiG-29s showed what they could do under the most ideal conditions for them…excellent pilots, no strickct ground contrlo, and WVR engagement only. In real life…that would never happen.
lol… :rolleyes:
You keep up your good work djnik…
Kapedani you are forgetting that NATO had total air supremacy over Serbia in ’99. Radar crews risked their lives by switching on their radars in order to acquire something on the screen,before they get a HARM or ALARM going their way. Now i dont know how long you need to keep your radar switched on in order to guide the missiles but i do not think that we had the luxury of time.
Also Serbian Air Defence missiles were made at the end of the 60s and in the 70s and i am not amazed that they didnt perform well in modern combat environment. ECM,Jamming and daily SEAD actions all conducted with modern equipment are more then a match for what Serbia had.Unfair fight.But hey you think its just us that are unable to perform.
Ok… :rolleyes: …and when did I sady anything that has anything to do with the things you’r taliking about?? This discussion is not about the abilities or how good or bad (mostly bad) the Serbians or anyone else are…this is about whether or not kills or hits were achieved…and the answrer is ofcourse…no.
You want to play the victim again?? Please go ahead…
Why do you always have to put down everything that is Serbian,like you would have done much better and like you have a better equipment? Its getting boring to read your “everything Serbian” sucks replies.
Then I suggest you don’t read them…