I wouldn’t place them anywhere else in the cockpit, I’m just a little surprised the Boeing engineers fitting the aeroplanes together didn’t think twice about dangling uninsulated wires in-front of the oxygen canisters.
I didn’t think I was being sensationalist, perhaps you could state exactly where you think I have been? This is more serious than the normal bullitins, the norm being anything from malfunctioning toilet tanks to overheating wiper motors.
In 2007, Airbus issued a 36 month time frame in which to replace Thales pitot tubes on all A330s and A340s… Turned out to be a few months too long :rolleyes:
Well I’d hardly call you ignorant, you weren’t to know. It could have happened on-board any one of Egyptair’s 777-200s, or any of the other 280 delivered Boeing 777s with the defect – including variants delivered to Singapore Airlines, United, BA and American.
For those wondering what Boeing’s doing in response —>
A service bulletin from about 4 months ago…
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-07-12/html/2012-15893.htm
Jesus! We flew LXR-LHR on that aircraft in May 2011.
Wow 😮
I actually thought fires like this were a thing of the past. But, it just goes to show how much potential the oxygen canisters have. They’re like a mini supercharged out of control afterburners when they’re ignited. One went off on Valujet 592, it got so hot it ignited several others. The plane crashed within minutes.
I still can’t get over the fact unprotected wires were near one :rolleyes:
Hells bells Matt, if you looked at the list of faults every airliner in the world flies with, you’d never fly again.
I bet there’s some kind of airworthiness notice in force already. Relax.
Actually I see aircraft defects on a day by day basis. This is probably one of the most severe manufacturer defect related cockpit fires I’ve seen in a very long time.
…Usually it’s just some smoking insulation foam – not a whole oxygen fuelled fire cell :p
Okay…but what about the 330 tail falling off in NY, the senor problem over the south atlantic, the paper thin fuel tanks on the Concorde?:D
With your sensational-style headling writing skills you have a bright career ahead of you in the tabloid press. 🙂
My topic title does state “most dangerous Boeing defect” …the incidents you list don’t appear to be from Boeing aircraft?
And besides, I even added a question mark to show tentativeness :p
Whilst I agree that it’s unacceptable for a modern airliner to crash due to a 10 inch strip of metal. AF are ultimately responsible for the crash.
The AF crew over-estimated the amount of fuel they’d consume on the journey to the runway. Meaning the aircraft was over-weight by more than a ton by the time they reached the runway.
During the taxi, the AF crew decided to cross-feed more fuel into the no. 5 tank. However, they once again miscalculated and transferred too much fuel. Meaning the aircraft was heavily unbalanced to the port side.
Finally, AF engineers had failed to install a legally required bogie ‘spacer’ for Concorde’s wheels. The spacer is a specially designed metal guard that keeps the wheels straight during take-off (Concorde had a tendency to veer to one side at high speeds). The lack of spacer would have worsened the already difficult to control aircraft, and may have been a reason why the flight never reached V1.
All three three errors are gross negligences on Air France’s part, the flight may not have crashed if either one of the errors had been eradicated.
Good, Continental should never have been blamed.
It’s just CDG and AF finding a scapegoat for their own wrong doings. Although, as it happens UA still has to pay AF $1.2 million for damages to the company’s public image.
If the strip of metal fell of the DC-10 due to Continental’s maintenance negligence, then fine – but that’s not the case here.
The fines are mounting for AF, on the other hand. $15 million for the Concorde crash plus a minimum fine of 50 million euros for flight 447.
Ha! First China, now America. Looks like our pals across the pond have stuck two big fingers up at ETS too. Obama’s signed a bill stating US carriers do not have to pay the tax.
Now the Brussels bureaucrats have egg on their face… :p
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/us-usa-airlines-emissions-idUSBRE8AQ1AR20121127
I hadn’t fully appreciated just how stupid ETS was until I read the article. The plan is to tax each ton of CO2 emitted on flights to and from the EU. This includes the paying of tax for miles flown outside of EU airspace.
Take American Airlines’ route from LAX-LHR. ETS would mean AA would have to pay tax on all the emissions released not just over EU airspace, but over American, Canadian and international airspace too! What a stupid tax. I fully support the US congress on this issue, why should American carriers be paying the EU for miles flown over US airspace? It’s way outside the EU tax-man’s jurisdiction.
If I drive into a low emissions zone, I expect to pay tax on the emissions my car emits in the zone… Not on all the emissions realised on the journey to the zone as well!
Awesome flying skills exhibited by the crew – I wish the captain a speedy recovery. Surely to be made into an ACI episode some time soon?
I guess someone who’s just spent a year in mainland Europe is just as bias as a daily mail reader?
I wouldn’t mind staying in the EU if I thought we were getting value for money – the fact is, we aren’t. And the notion that fellow EU states (France, Germany) would reduce trade with us if we leave just because we’d be “outsiders”, I personally find laughable.
Obviously if we leave the EU, bilateral agreements with France and Germany (and other large EU economies) would have to be put in place to ensure we don’t lose trade. These countries would have to agree to these bilateral’s – simply because they have too much to lose…
Eg.
Britain’s exports to Germany = £27.5 Billion.
Britain’s imports from Germany = £41.1 Billion.
Britain’s exports to France = £18.9 Billion.
Britain’s imports from France = £19.1 Billion
The story’s the same for Italy and Spain, we buy so much from the Europeans they’d have to agree to our bilateral proposals post EU departure.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/feb/24/uk-trade-exports-imports#
I guess someone who’s just spent a year in mainland Europe is just as bias as a daily mail reader?
I wouldn’t mind staying in the EU if I thought we were getting value for money – the fact is, we aren’t. And the notion that fellow EU states (France, Germany) would reduce trade with us if we leave just because we’d be “outsiders”, I personally find laughable.
Obviously if we leave the EU, bilateral agreements with France and Germany (and other large EU economies) would have to be put in place to ensure we don’t lose trade. These countries would have to agree to these bilateral’s – simply because they have too much to lose…
Eg.
Britain’s exports to Germany = £27.5 Billion.
Britain’s imports from Germany = £41.1 Billion.
Britain’s exports to France = £18.9 Billion.
Britain’s imports from France = £19.1 Billion
The story’s the same for Italy and Spain, we buy so much from the Europeans they’d have to agree to our bilateral proposals post EU departure.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/feb/24/uk-trade-exports-imports#
Makes a nice news story, the idea of a traveller taking a photo just at the moment their aircraft is struck by lightning. But this seems like too much of a co-incidence, my bet is the picture is a still from a video. :p
What a great dynamic shot! 5 stars. The white and turquoise frame stands out vividly against the angry looking sky.
I wonder how TAP is doing in comparison, as the other flag carrier on the Iberian peninsula ?
I don’t have any exact figures, but I know they’re doing badly too. A few weeks ago it was thought the Portuguese government might not even get 1/2 as much from selling/privatising the airline as was previously expected.
It doesn’t seem as if any of the PIGS’ airlines are doing particularly well at the moment, a shame because I quite like the new Alitalia product (PTVs installed on their short haul A320s!) 🙁
Am I right in saying this image reached the front page of a.net a couple of days ago? Nice one! 😉