Does Turkish have some sort of special arrangement with Jet whereby they operate aircraft on the LHR-IST route using their aircraft but painted in the Turkish Airways livery, and if so, how long have they done this?
Are there any other examples of this at any other airport at all with any other airline/s?
Turkish have 3 777s on wet lease from Jet Airways (delivered May & June this year), Jet have also had similar deals with Gulf Air and Thai Airways.
Economies of scale only work so far, let’s not forget our long diseased behemoth Pan Am who is testament to this theory.
I wonder how long it will be before we’re all flying LHR-JFK (via DXB, AUH or DOH)…:p
It’s funny you should say that, whilst I was looking for flights from Amsterdam-New York; the cheapest option was to fly with Turkish Airlines via IST! :stupid:
My deepest sympathies to the families of the victims, it was announced a British woman was also among the dead.
A lot of Russian airports need to be upgraded with more advanced ILSs, crashes due to landing attempts in poor weather are an all too common occurrence in Russia.
Air New Zealand – £94 million
In fact the figures are likely to be higher than that (I believe £94 million’s for the first half of the year, where as the figures I gave were for the first 3/4). New Zealand benefits from the fact it’s a Pacific island so is predominantly a long haul airline, that’s where the majority of the profit is made by the full service carriers these days.
And with regard to AF/KLM, their biggest problem (mainly lying with AF) is they’re trying to compete with the LCCs (namely easyJet) and failing miserably. For example, when easyJet announced it’s new Nice and Toulouse bases in 2012 – less then 2 weeks later, Air France had announced it shall also open bases at the airports, perhaps in an attempt to retain its share of the French market. However, AF simply can’t compete on fares on like-for-like routes with easyJet (especially given these markets are predominantly tourist rich) and is as a result losing literally millions. Well that’s my take anyway, they’re putting too much into trying to grow their regional market and not enough into their core market in Paris.
There are certain things to do with our industrial and technological heritage that simply must be preserved, and the Concorde is one of them. Shame on BA.
I could be wrong here, but was it not EADS that pulled Concorde from service as they stopped producing the spares? I believe BA would have happily continued flying them for several more years.
That said, even if she had survived past 2003 – she probably wouldn’t have seen past 2009/1010 when the recession was biting heavily into BA’s heels.
A revolutionary aircraft lost forever and even if tomorrow a new supersonic aircraft were announced it wouldn’t be anywhere near as graceful and iconic as Concorde was.
I can’t say I’m surprised, I do believe Alitalia’s days are now numbered and there is a real possibility Italy could be left without a flag carrier. Alitalia has an A320 series fleet similar in size to that of British Airways, yet no major long-haul connections market to justify a short haul network so vast. The result? A short-haul network that can’t compete with easyJet and Ryanair…
There are two possible long term options for investors, invest a lot more cash into the business and enhance it’s long haul network through the acquisition of new aircraft and routes to North America, Africa and the Middle East.
Or, they can cut back heavily – closing all but the FCO hub and focusing all their efforts at a single airport (like many other European full service carriers). Strategically repositioning long-haul aircraft, reducing the A320 fleet and remarketing itself as a lower cost airline, through reduced fares, to drive load factors.
I’d be very surprised if AF-KLM decided to take a larger stake in Alitalia, they have enough of their own problems without taking on another failing airline on to their books.
Explain why this is a massive blow for Boeing, other than it being your opinion?
Both ANA and JAL operate all Boeing fleets (with the exception of ANA’s 18 A320s) – Boeing, for many decades, has had a stranglehold on these two airlines (who represent around 85-90% of the Japanese market share) and thus the country. By ordering the A350, due for delivery in 2019 over the 77X which Lufthansa ordered a few weeks ago also due for delivery at the end of the decade suggests at least one of the two Japanese majors is looking to place its eggs in more than one basket. Whether the issues that have plagued the 787 played any role in this decision we may never know, but JAL is certainly now increasing its fleet diversity.
The big problem for Boeing is, how do you maintain an 80% market share of the Japanese market when JAL’s already ordering the A350? The answer is, you can’t… The balls firmly in Airbus’ court.
I can’t stop thinking of Air Australia when I see this, and who chose grey as the base colour? 🙁 Could they not have chosen a more bland colour?
Interesting launch customer for a new Boeing, but maybe Lufthansa have realised they can’t hang around too long to replace their current aging fleet? So by jumping the gun early on the 77X they can get the much needed early production frames?
Three guesses for which airline… nice try to cover it up though.
That’s social media’s fault – three or four years ago it wouldn’t have been worth the trouble. The only ones who would see it would be passers by who happened to notice it at the airport, now with the likes of twitter – a picture can get re-tweeted around the world in minutes.
By covering up the titles it makes the difference of “Plane crash at Bangkok” from “Plane crash at Bangkok #Thaiairways”, while airline geeks can still recognize a title-less airline livery, the general public cannot. I even wonder what percentage of the British public would be able to recognise a BA aircraft with the titles covered.
I assume we’re looking at the water leaks / mold stains on the canvas covering? Not a pleasant site to see at BA’s flagship, granted.
EDIT: I see it, it’s the dust haha. Perhaps their budget doesn’t extend to portable hoovers and wet wipes 😉 If you want action perhaps a friendly email to BA’s customer complaints will get you further than a topic on a forum.
Looks like the first aircraft (a Lufthansa A320 LH3384) is just about to land on 09L. Airport reopened?
Apparently there are extensive scorch marks visible from the outside of the aircraft on the top rear port side of the fuselage near the tail. So maybe it’s not the battery?
https://twitter.com/FlyingFear/status/355732187951267841/photo/1
Markets aren’t responding well 🙁
http://www.google.com/finance?cid=661224
But let’s try not to jump to conclusions, there are many things other than battery’s that can cause fires… If it is the battery, is there a chance Boeing will scrap Lith Ion?
Sky News is saying the fire is now under control.
The Ethiopian plane “was parked at a stand with no one on-board”, the runways should reopen shortly.
http://news.sky.com/templates/watch-live