PLAN used to have an admiral that was very pro-carrier. He had much of the PLAN’s reins in the late nineties. That was all where the carrier related stuff was coming from.

The next guy that replaced him had a very different naval philosophy. He is more of the sub faction and the sub guys has since taken over the PLAN. This means you’re going to see less surface ship development and more subs and subs.

PLANAF is now run by a former PLAAF aviator, so you can expect PLANAF to act more and more like a subsidiary of the PLAAF rather than the PLAN.

I am still betting that “the prestige and the image that comes
attached with carriers” will dictate that China will eventually and soon field
a number “medium carriers” — even if for the bragging rights of it.

Chinese are a face-loving spiecies amongst homosapians,
and aircraft carriers just as it is Airforce One’s that have bugs in it as standard
equiptment offers the Chinese leaderships such previlages.

The new DDGs do have ASW capability, otherwise you can explain those MLRS style charge launchers and the Z-9C/ Helix helos they have on deck. They’re meant as an expression of power with other countries, otherwise missile boats and subs would have siffice performing a blockade of Taiwan.

:diablo:

Crob… Those are all
photoshopped works of art — always has been and
alway will be. Comprende?

:p

No other ship but aircraft carriers have vast amounts of open space both above and below decks. The logic is there if you take more than one second to look for it.

Have it your way, Vympel. You are entitle to :diablo: your opinions :diablo: .

Sub guys are running PLAN now. No way they’re going to build a carrier or even attempt to make the Varyag into one.

Hypothesis: They will field a few just for the sheer pride and prestige of it…

Why do I see it that way? For the sheer size of a country
as China, coupled with the purchasing power it is now blissed, metaphorically speaking,
Mercede Benzes should be a common scenes and a “MUST”!!!

Argument: All those theme parks that utilizes aircraft carriers as
a venue tells a story!!! It shows us how consume or the desire the Chinese may have
in their minds for carriers because of the image carriers project.

I mean why must they utilize, of all vessels, aircraft carriers
for their theme parks? Why not cruiseships or ferries which can easily be had??? I mean
don’t you think that that’s weird? The logic is simply not there!!!

But, make no mistake: They know carriers are a liability and as
such are pouring everything they have into subs, anti-ship missiles, fighter bombers,
and other deterences as the country’s national defense priorities.

Another example: If they ordered Airforce One, they will want Carriers!!!

😮

*sigh*- the Varyag was actually a Soviet carrier before the Chinese bought it and dragged it half way around the world, and in the decade or so following its cancellation, it sat unattended at its shipyard (in the water) doing nothing. That the hull has gone to the dogs is fact- you don’t need to know be an employee of a Chinese shipyard to know that, and it’s been reported before.

*sigh*… I like that gesture 😀 , Vympel…

Anyway, I’m glad you feel so dead-sure about all things PLAN or about
all things ChiCom because I for one has been decieved on numerous occasions in
the past by them over what they indeed may have under their sleeves.

Example: I too use to jump in on the naysayer to the J-10
bandwagon; the naysayer to the Chinese DDG and FFG bandwagon; and, to the
naysayer to the Chinese Rusty Bucket bandwagon, and more …

But, to no avail, I now MUST swallow my pride blue rare and eat each
and every word and statement I’ve made in the past. Of course, this is not to say
that I won’t be subjected to same on what I am saying here however.

But, I know that you, Vympel, can never be wrong however!

:diablo:

I’m sure they won’t be be stupid enough to go to the expense of getting engines for the thing from somewhere (that’s right, it doesn’t even have engines) and then realize they can’t even fit them for deterioration of the hull.

Seems as if you are in the know and from the inside out. Are you a Dairen naval yard insider or somethin’?