Get real, china dosnt have an AESA fighter radar that is anywhere near ready as opposed to Russia planning to flight test the ZHuk-A next year. No chinese aircraft has flown with Indigenous TVC, and the J-10 looks as if it will never get an indigenous engine.

Even if true, that does not mean that they
are not working behind closed doors and that they have a tendency
of shocking and surprising every one of us.

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How’s about dimensional space? Does any one buy that one?

Hard to write off anything these days given how “black
matters and blackholes and such” has become the norms of every
day science. Therefore, I am willing to bet that the hypothesis of wormholes,
warps speeds, etc., may in fact not be that far fetched.

I mean where does the universe begin and where does it end? Or, if
there is an edge to the universe as some suggests, where does that begin and where
does it end and so on and so forth? Or, if as theory goes that the universe is still expanding
and that it will collapse and fall back on itself, where to from there?

In other words I too am one who is open to the ideas
of “Inteligent Design” because, life is and will always be a
mystery that none of us will ever find a definite answer….

Who knows if there might not be another state of existence (of a none
biological or even of a visible state and which might thrive on natural sources of energy
alone) in another dimension of time and space we yet can comprehend???

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Nothing against this guy but, BOY OH BOY!!!

He’s going to get his **** kicked in by his
neighbour to the north and he’s going to drag this hard fought for
Sino-US relations down the drain with him…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4760982.stm

Man!!! Those Billions of dollars of annual
trade surplus…. Is it worth trading it in for this guy’s
business? Hope Beijing is not as stupid…

The Chinese, my opinion, should stay clear off of a this guy. He’s BIG TROUBLE
and he’s A DEATH WISH… He’s also Uncle Sam’s very own backyard so let Uncle Sam tilt it
any which way he pleases. The Chinese, my opinion, shouldn’t even go near it.

Just a silly little opinion…

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Grumman’s Super-7:

Actually, I believe what truly killed the Super-7 programme was
American red tape and “TAM“ probably provided Washington with the last minute excuse
to void whatever contract they might have inked with China.

China had to deal with Brezhnev and his MiG-23s, 25s, and 27 and
such at the time and the Super-7, proabably, was a kind of a barter for which
China agreed to help the US take out the Soviets out in Afganistan.

But, as always, China probably insists on the ins and
outs of what makes the Super-7 tick and the US probably got smart
in the very last moment and didn’t want to share it.

This angle: sharp and cool…

Think it’s been posted before but not sure.

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Even J-10 won’t cost $40 million.

lol, the 3 million engine will be replaced by the 1 million WS-13A once the export season starts. Trust me, FC-1 can be downgraded. They can take prototype 01 and remove even FBW redundancy, put a domestic engine on it, export even more downgraded SD-10 and PL-9C. CAC has often said that J-7MF can be just as capable as FC-1. You can obviously downgrade J-7MF to less capable J-7. That should tell you how far FC-1 can be downgraded.

And of course JF-17 will be PAF’s frontline aircraft. Look at what PAF has right now? Is it really that surprising?

Again, my two cents:

I suspect the J-10 will command a price tag of somewhere around
10 million; maybe 15 million for the top of the line series (one’s with the
works in it); with the former (Basic models) geared more towards the African Market.
Providing of course it indeed will be introduced as an export item.

FC-1’s can most likely be had for between 5 million to 8 million tops. If they
charge more than that, it would be a toughy fo her to penetrate the world market
if not impossible, given what can be had from the west for a similar price.

Besides, if i’m wrong about this, a simple J-7 sells for only 3 million.
Adding that softwares can be had for dirt cheap in China, they can put
the FC-1 in the market for just a wee above the price tag they have on the best
of their J-7s making the FC-1 accessable to anyone and everyone.

“Facts: I can pick up a DVD machine at a mere 24 dollars CDN and
it does the same job and does it just as good. I doubt however if I can even come
close to that if manufactured by Phillips or if by Sony or whatever.”

My suspicion is that Pakistan will be the primary marketing agent for the
FC-1 while China the principle source of the manufacturing (export items). Therefore
no free lunch there for Pakistan. She will have a lots of cold calling to do. She have better
access to the mideastern market than China and can make a killing there.

Hey! That’s why it’s a partnership deal.

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Actually Edisonone you are the one who started with the gratutitous insults.

Evidence?! Evidence please?! Please please please :p ?!!!

Anyway, by shufflling “that blame card around” won’t help you
salvage the damage you’ve already done to yourself and to your charactor :p . After all,
you were the one that came out with THAT SILLINESS. Not me!

(Maybe this will serve as a learning experience to one and
all that insults and uncool languages is not the way to go because, if
used indiscriminately – silly outburses can back fire on you.)

While at the same time making outlandish false statements .

Again, evidence please! Or, at the very least clairifications as
to the term, or the word, “outlandish” and what you mean by that. I mean
what did I say which was so “outlandish” that it would cause people to resorts
to “violence almost” to try and get their messages across :p ???

I’m baffled! I’m scratching me head here… I’m at a lost for words… :p…

When asked for any factual
documentation to back those statements up your the
one who got angry and still are.

Wow!!! I got angry because you asked for facts?
How did you ever arrived at such a notion? I mean in what way did I
blow my cool so to speak? Or, could it maybe simply be that I wasn’t speaking your
language and you weren’t too pleased with it?

Facts: Even SOC acknowledged the conspiracy theory (Yes! I said
acknowledged. I didn’t say he was in agreement with it. And yes, it was
but only a theory and theories gets debated and not taken up with bitterness.)
and he added his two cents to it. He sure as the heck didn’t revert to
insults and harsh languages as you did to try to get his point across.

Now that is the difference between a person who commands
respect (SOC’s way) and someone who don’t even know what he or she
is doing (Oh well… You know what I’m refering here I’m sure).

I mean honestly, have you even just for once mentioned that there indeed
is a conspiracy theory around and that I wasn’t the one that created it? No! Not even
once. All I got was was harsh words packed with bitterness and rejection.

The very bottom line and please admit it: It’s only alright for
you to throw all kinds of a acusation Beijing’s way. But, if it’s the other way around,
it’s like the end of the world to you isn’t it? Now why is that?

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that prototype is not necessarily 04, it’s could be another prototype that is getting built right now to 04 standard.

Usually, don’t they make more than just one prototype? I mean with the
“04” being a totally distinct and different aircraft (almost), wouldn’t they needs to have at
least one for static & structural testing and another for flight evauation.

http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs/11018441/20060227/13125596.html

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