CADmanComment was made about how the model company’s get their reference data to produce a kit, well I do not know. But I remembered some years ago at the 1988 IPMS (International Plastic Model Society) show a scratch built model Whirlwind, must have been 1/24 or 1/32 scale, absolutely super model cockpit detail, engines the lot. It must have been good because my dad took a photo of it and we have just found it, see attached. The point being who ever made it was a obviousely a craftsman and I doubt would have started the project without good engineering drawings, so who made the model ? Can an IPMS member access the records and see if a name and contact details be found ? I quick Google search finds that a company call ID Models did produce a 1:32 vacuform model, once again any modeller have contact details ?
Paul
CADmanIt would appear to be the only way, either that or air freight in a C-17, seems a hell of a lot of trouble to provide DACT training ??
CADmanVery interesting. Begs the question how does a Hawker Hunter get to Hawaii ? It must be a 2,000 ++ mile flight from USA, does the Hunter have that range even with tanks, and thats a hell of a lot of faith to place in your single engine jet.
CADmanNice !!! Can you post any details of its current ownership and future plans. Maybe you could start a new thread for the Swift ?
CADmanTwo posts saying the same thing, but does anybody where she is being moved to. Hopefully with HHA involved she has a secure future.
CADmanSaid buyer was more than a little shocked when he arrived to collect his ladder – it is a huge wooden multiple stage extending ladder about 30 feet long when not extended, together with its wood framed, axle equipped base and a massive iron pulley mechanism that was originally mounted on top of the base frame. The wooden parts are definitely showing their age and it is all massively reinforced with iron brackets – the whole thing must weigh two to three tons – plenty of scrap metal and as he declined to take it, it is now awaiting the next passing scrap dealer 😮
Surely at £30 it quid be collected by somebody connected with the airship display at Old Warden ? Is there not a ‘history room’ at the former RAF Cardington, or any contact with the Bedford Town museum ?
CADmanXV232 had the most illustrious Falklands war record. XV232 arrived at Assension Island on 9th May having been converted with the air to air refuelling kit at Woodford. On 15th May she flew at 19hour 5min mission to radar survey the Argentine coast looking for enemy shipping, which was all found ‘in port’ due to the UK submarine threat, the flight covered 8300 miles from a point 150 mile north of Port Stanley and as close as 60 miles from the Argentine coast, and included three refuellings. Later on the 15th May another mission covered 8453 miles which was considered the longest single sorte of the conflict. Luckily XV232 survives and is in the good care of Air Atlantique at Coventry. Info from the excellent BARG Falklands – Air War
CADmanChox wrote “Then again, if Cosford are to acquire a Dominie, why can’t they have one of the examples from the ground school? These are painted in “proper” colours and are also “proper” T1 aircraft with the original shorter nose”
Hi Tim, I dont think the Dominie’s are still at Cosford, gone to Everretts ?
Your comments regards the ‘new’ radar that was fitted in the 1990’s made me think why the Dominies remained T1 and not T2. The nose was indeed extended, compare to first two photos above and you will see that the radom joint starts a little further away from the nose wheel door. As a model maker did Airfix revise their kit or just change the decal sheet ?
Paul
CADmanI have mentioned this before but there goes.
During the Falklands war the Lyneham Hercules were at full stretch. Many long range missions from Acsension were flown to ships in the South Altantic, but two aircraft are worthy of mention.
XV196 flew an 18 hour mission on the 7th May, which gained the pilot Flt Lt Burgoyne the AFC, followed by another on the 8th, three further long range missions were flown proir to returning to UK on 16th May. These first missions were flown unrefuelled fitted with extra internal tanks. By 6th June XV196 was back at Asension but was now fitted with a refueling probe and carried out further 24 hour missions.
XV200 was the first Hercules fitted with an in flight refueling probe and on the 16th May flew 6300 miles from Ascension to HMS Antelope stationed off the Falklands Inslands to drop 1000lb of stores and 8 paratroops.
So why pick out these two aircraft ? They are both still in use with the RAF !!! I would suggest that these two historically important airframes should be given a secure future, one with the RAF Museum Cosford and the other with a nationally significant collection. They certainly should be sold as scrap or broken to spare parts.
CADmanHi Bruce, I was thinking about W4050 restoration and the opperation to reveal the older (orginal ?) paint work, and I did wounder what markings would be applied when finished. Obviously overall yellow, but as E-0234 as on her first flight, or as more commonly known W4050. Its very exiciting to hear that the team have found the orginal pattern short necelles, would it be possible to restore her with these in place ? What other structural changes would have to be made to return to 1940 specification ?
CADmanHi Peppermint,
Just to correct you slightly the NOTAM (a offical reported which is issued by the CAA to warn of such things) states….
H5396/10 – FORMATION TRANSIT BY 16 MIL FAST JET ACFT ACFT. THE FORMATION WILL
FORM UP IN VCY OF 5239N 00033E (MARHAM AD) FROM 1305 HR AND THEN
ROUTE:
5239N 00033E (MARHAM AD) 1318 HR
5221N 00006W (WYTON AD) 1322 HR
5237N 00029W (WITTERING AD) 1326 HR
5239N 00029W (STAMFORD) 1327 HR
5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD) 1401 HR
5310N 00031W (WADDINGTON AD) 1402 HR
5318N 00033W (SCAMPTON AD) 1404 HR
5306N 00010W (CONINGSBY AD) 1411 HR
5244N 00039W (COTTESMORE AD) 1415 HR
5240N 00044W (OAKHAM) 1416 HR
5244N 00039W (COTTESMORE AD) 1420 HR
THE FORMATION WILL REMAIN IN VCY OF 5244N 00039W (COTTESMORE AD)
UNTIL 1430 HR PRIOR TO LANDING.
15TH IS RESERVE DAY. TIMINGS, HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE
DUE TO WX OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS. 10-12-0055/AS 1. SFC – 3000FT AMSL, 1255-1440,
14 DEC 12:55 2010 UNTIL 15 DEC 14:40 2010. CREATED: 13 DEC 10:02 2010
All times are local so expect Cottesmore departures 12.30 onwards.
For those lucky enough to visit Cottesmore today / tomorrow as of 10.00am Tuesday the local weather is foggy and the air traffic is switched off, also if they fly it probalbly be from the 04 end which is not best for photography. Wednesday may see some parking restrictions at the usual 22 end crash gate, although a local farm and camp site are being opened for this purpose. If you are going to Cottesmore please use these sites and do not block the narrow local lanes.
Also the local land owners seem happy for you to use the field at the end of the runway but as always please keep of the crops and do not leave litter. By the way take your wellies as the field and footpaths are already thick mud and in places the roads still have ice on them.
CADmanYes, checked my references and the Comet C2 and Nimrod are same wing span, Nimrod is longer, which would not be a problem.
I do not care where they end up placing the Nimrod, just pleased that there will be one at Cosford for safe keeping. Rather than assembling it and leaving it out doors I would be happy to know that it was stored in one of the School hangars adjacent to the museum. It can only be a matter of time before the rest of the hangars on the airfield site become surplus to the training school requirement and are passed to the museum.
CADmanHi Pagen, without checking my references I assumed that the Nimrod would have a bigger wingspan, length and height than the early Comet.
And yes the ’empty space’ in front of the Comet is often used for conference’s, dance’s, concert’s and seminar’s, it should provide space for aeroplanes, that is what the museum is about, sadly it provides an income stream, which keeps the accountants happy.
Paul
CADmanWould Shawbury have the necessary servicing equipment or hangar space to correctly dismantle a Nimrod ? Where as Kinloss does (or did) have the equipment and personel to do the job.
As good as the news is about a Nimrod at Cosford, where will it go ? Will a Nimrod actually fit in the old hangar, even if it does something else will have to move outdoors.
Has anybody confirmed that it will be put back together straight away ? It could just be going there for storage.
Paul
CADmanAccording to the the previousley mentioned web site http://www.bac1-11jet.co.uk
Nine BAC 111 are current, two being Boscombe Down residents. The three in the USA owned by Northrop are radar test beds and are still finding usefull work, although by there nature these may spend long periods grounded between test flights. Several pictures on http://www.airliners.net which show interesting variations.
N999BW seems to find trade carrying rock stars and pop groups between gigs around the USA, guess its got a nice interior 🙂 It was last photographed in October 2008.
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