From a structural engineering stand point I find the £100,000 price a surprising under estimate. That is a really big structure, think the news says 30m wing span, 12m of the ground. The foundations for that will need to be deep and very expensive. Really hope the plan becomes reality but can not stop thinking maybe a smaller sculpture, say half size, would be just as relevant and inspiring but with a more achievable design and engineering budget.
“and let’s talk about the boat”
This thread, however interesting, has always bothered me because apart from using a power source more commonly found in an aircraft. ITS A BOAT !!! (or more correctly a hydrofoil ?) so why does it appear so regularly in the historic aviation forum ?
Maybe I have missed it earlier in the thread but is this ‘design’ being sold in the RAFM shop as some found of decal / sticker, if so at what price ? Surely as a ‘design’ for a single year / event it should used on the event marketing and maybe be given away free of charge in order to promote the event.
The RAF T3 Typhoons are being broken for spares (RTP) at Coningsby. It is unlikely any complete airframes will be left fro display. Although hope that one can delivered to RAF Museum Cosford.
As there has been no official announcement from either IWM or RAF might the arrival of ZA469 be a temporary exhibit for the RAF 100th Anniversary events ? It would be easier for the RAF to display ZA469 to the public as an ‘operational’ Tornado than the hassle of removing the IWM Tornado GR1 from Airspace.
For Lufthansa or indeed any group to return this aircraft to airworthiness would be a hard task requiring money and enthusiasm.
But what further conditions would be applied by the authorities to allow it to display, let alone carry fare paying passengers ?
The DC-3, DH-89 or Ju-52 is one thing, aircraft that have been in almost continuous commercial use for 80 years and carry no more than a dozen people.
But a complicated type that has not had a certified passenger flight for god know how long. Are any of the Lockheed Connie’s allow to fly with passengers, what chance a Star Liner ?
Credit to the Potteries Museum and Stoke City Council for spending their money on this project.
How temping must it be to sell and simply replace with a fibreglass replica.
Does this aircraft still wear ‘No Guts No Glory” Thought it had been repainted in the USA ?
Somebody got a nice Christmas present !!!!
Maybe the organisers should also have looked at the European airshow calendar before deciding to have the show on a date when most of the main flying display acts would already be booked. I know it does not affect the local population who visit for a day out, but if there are no (very few) international aircraft it is hardly a memorable event. Cost and the need for advanced tickets will put the causal visitor off.
Did the Museum have the airworthy Fairey Flycatcher replica ? Where did that go ?
Perhaps worth comparing number of aircraft in RAF / RN service and total flying hours in the 1950’s / 1960’s before suggesting thing were less safe. Any loss is bad, tragic if it is fatal, but no less avoidable today than fifty years ago.
T.J. Happy to scan and email the Masefield article to you ?
Filton Flyer,
Thanks for the info. Nice to know the local interest in the 146.
Understand the Liverpool Britannia is not yours, thanks for the links.
Whilst not wishing to ‘play God’ with other peoples aircraft the team at Filton obvious have a vision and if they can acquire and transport of a Bristol Freighter from the other side of the world then an already dismantled and ready for transport Britannia could be possible.
I may be wrong but what is the connection between Bristol / Filton and the BAe 146 ? Always associated the 146 with Hatfield (DeHavilland) and Woodford (Avro)
Far better would be a Britannia, how far advanced is the Liverpool based example, last I remember it was dismantled after its move from Kemble.
Would be great to see the Bristol 188 on loan from Cosford, or the TRS2 from Duxford. But doubt either types would find suitable indoor space.
Also great to see the WW1 hangar restored and in use, a great exhibit in its own right.
To Rutley and Ozplane.
do you have any public link to this “plan” ?
when you say “western end and storage hangar” do you mean the grass behind the land warfare building ?
I had always though if land could be secured a hanger north of the A505 would be an ideal location for the the DAS airliner collection