The current limitations of the NAM website are a known factor, when it was last updated more than 2 years ago the ability to have it all set up on a CMS basis (content management system) was limited by the prohibitive cost. Hence why we have a limited number of pages that we can amend ourselves!
The whole site is under review and even though the cost has come down the single biggest limiting factor we presently face is – time; i.e. time to migrate to a news system; time to keep all of the pages updated; time to sort out the next set of issues created by a new layout – as whatever you set up there’s always some potential visitor who will get confused!
Clearer wording helps – the fact that we’d Sold Out all the tables – indicated to the potential visitor that they would be unable to attend!! :stupid:
As there have been no responses to the item on the NAM website about the event on Saturday I will make some feedback on here. This is not intended to be defensive or confrontational but merely a way of getting over a few answers to the points being raised.
The event on Saturday was moved forward at the suggestion of stallholders at previous events, to try and seen whether an earlier date might be beneficial.
Feedback from various stallholders and buyers to both me directly and other museum people; shows a mixed picture with some really happy with their takings, whilst others are not.
Visitors to the museum (I acknowledge they may not be enthusiast / buyers) were interesting to note:
Visitor count @ 12.30pm (as first sellers started to pack up) was 19 down on the 2012 autumn sale total visitor figure for the day.
Visitor count @ 1.30pm (as most sellers had packed up) was 10 up on the 2012 autumn sale total visitor figure for the day.
Visitor count @ 16.00pm (when I left site) was 36 up on the 2012 autumn sale total visitor figure for the day.
Admittedly the 2012 date was later in the month and much colder.
The advertising (levy) suggestion detailed on the NAM website was made by a group of stallholders and perhaps poorly explained by me on the NAM website after around 12 or more hours on Aeroboot matters. (I guess they were saying they’d be willing to pay more if it went on adverts).
The topic of advertising will be put before the trustees by me and I will endeavour to get approval to do more specific event adverts.
Early admissions have been allowed in the past, but these were stopped at the request of stallholders – following a previous debate like this.
Admission cost for buyers is another interesting topic – as the £4.00 fee seems to concern some people, as does the helper pass system. The museum does not have a problem with sellers sharing stalls to help spread the costs and passes have been provided accordingly. However I was told on Saturday by at least two sellers that they had been contacted by people asking them to request helper passes so they could get in either early or without paying!
We do listen to feedback and try to develop accordingly but as I type this I’m personally beginning to question whether I have got the enthusiasm to continue helping to organise them.
I didn’t locate a copy of the above mentioned book yesterday so any leads would be appreciated.
NAM is gearing up for one of its last events for the main part of the season, which will take place during the October Half-Term school holiday period from Saturday 19th to Sunday 27th October 2013; information about the Autumn Bits & Pieces Trail is here in the usual place!
Steve I’ve not come across the Notts incident in my local research, but could I suggest that the village might be spelt – Calverton.
We did indeed – thanks. All we need to do now is allocate them some rack space in the artefact store, which is now starting to fill up slowly.
John,
I’m glad that yesterday’s ‘soiree’ at Newark yielded some parts for the Stirling Project – another little aspect that makes you feel that the effort and standing in the rain for a couple of hours was worth it!! 🙂
I have opted to tack a brief thank you for todays Aeroboot at NAM onto this thread, which already contained some debate about how these types of event could be improved / expanded.
There was some feedback noted during and after the event today, and a request for further comment has been added to the NAM website here – hopefully further debate can follow on in here.
If the Mods, or the thread originator are unhappy about this post I will move it elsewhere!
Hopefully the autumnal weather forecast won’t put off buyers from attending tomorrows Indoor Aeroboot / Aerojumble Sale at Newark Air Museum. A reminder of some of the key bits of information for the event i.e. times, cost etc. have been listed in this item on the NAM website!
On a personal note I would like to ask whether any sellers have a copy of the following book: “The man who would not die” by Desmond L Plunkett. I understand that it’s an aviation title and it is something that I’m looking for to help out a contact from the 619 Squadron Association. If anyone has a copy for sale please let me know tomorrow. 🙂
It probably was someone from the museum Scott, you’d be surprised at what ‘stories’ get told concerning the museum and its exhibits; wherever possible we try to get the correct information out there so that it doesn’t get enshrined as ‘fact’ and therefore difficult to correct at a much later time.
My favourite on the MiGs is that they’re Polish and Russian Tornados – because someone had been told that by a former museum guide!! :highly_amused:
Hi Scott it was good to meet you and your family again last Saturday and thank you for taking the time to support this event and for striving for authenticity with the ‘flight gear’ – some nice additional photographs added here.
Just one minor correction on the MiGs, it is my understanding that these loaned airframes both came from Latvia originally. I hope that you fulfil your aim to be photographed with the Polish Iskra at MAM.
Details have gone onto the NAM website advising that the Viggen will go back inside next Tuesday.
It has already been partially moved to allow for safe access to and from the Aeroboot on Saturday for the sellers at the event.
A few quick responses in chronological order:
I’m afraid that the size of the cockpit precludes it going inside whilst it is on loan at NAM.
In view of the various power-consumption comments sometime I must take a photograph of the 13 amp plug sticking out from the looms of cabling – it is rather amusing.
Yes it is the former Elvington unit that has more recently been stored outside at a location in Lincolnshire.
I sense that this coming Saturday, during the Aeroboot/ Aerojumble event the ‘Victorish’ cockpit will be once again attracting a lot of attention!
I’ve just been sent a weblink to an Experience Nottinghamshire blog that features the Victor cockpit 🙂 http://news.experiencenottinghamshire.com/victor-cockpit-moves-to-newark-air-museum/
For this research project the museum is now investigating some leads on RAF Winthorpe’s Cold War connections; some of which have been generated form an item in RAF News. Here’s an extract from a recent website update:
“The museum has also been notified of some additional Cold War era stories, which it would like to develop. From a couple of independent sources we now believe that RAF personnel who were living in the RAF Winthorpe Married Quarters in the Coddington village area {see picture} were being bussed by the Winthorpe MT Section to and from the following RAF bases in Lincolnshire on a daily basis: RAF Scampton and RAF Waddington in the early days of the V-Force era; plus to RAF Digby.”
Thanks’ for the positive feedback – from information noted whilst at the museum today it would appear that the ‘in-service’ white scheme is currently the front runner for the Victor cockpit repaint!
Three test pilot titles amongst these donated items!