Lots of thought has been given to lots of layout options – sadly nothing is perfect.
The single biggest challenge is finding sufficient hard standing areas for larger cockpits and to stop items getting bogged down in poor ground conditions during wet weather.
Sadly some of the new areas laid down last winter (at significant cost in well over five figure terms) are still suffering drainage issues – at present the run-off water is just being moved around. Additional remedial work in that department is already being planned, really the whole area around Hangar 2 needs re-doing, but the museum doesn’t yet have the funds to tackle this.
Sadly no water supply over at Hangar 2 or down the Southfield Site for toilet provision etc., plus the area behind Hangar 2 is an emergency access route!
The museum is listening and will endeavour to find improved solutions – but I would wager that this time next year we will be debating ‘similar’ issues – I think it’s called ‘Life!’
Also, did everyone receive WOS’s email stating June 15/16th for next year’s event?
Thanks for the feedback, which will be taken on-board. 🙂
However it is perhaps worthwhile considering the difficulty in finding a single space / area on a site with 70 plus aircraft and cockpits already in residence to display 32 visiting cockpits of different weights and sizes; and with varying requirements (power connections, night time security etc.) – plus don’t forget the indoor displays in Hangar 2; and the Aeroboot!!
Except perhaps out in the middle of the Southfield Site car parking area? Then where does the overflow car parking go and how to manage / control visitor access?
viscount – if you PM me an email address I’ll send over a PDF of the site plan from the weekend!
TBH a bit of both – the Warbird Alley thread covers it in part.
Knifeedgeturn, I don’t disagree either – but WADR there seemed to be a lack of enthusiasm from some quarters to the idea and it seemed to ‘wither on the vine!’ :confused:
Sorry if I seem to be moaning Howard……
Ritch I don’t consider your comments to be moaning and I will always endeavour to be receptive to constructive comment and observations – however if I make a decision there is usually a valid reason; but I cannot always say the same for other people.
😮 Rest assured (as some people will have no doubt have noticed) there was no one more frustrated with the situation on Saturday morning, than me!
The frustration doesn’t just apply to people connected to Cockpit-Fest and Aeroboot. We were also faced with the poor situation with the access gate to the Kit-Car Show car park on the main runway, which was not open and their traffic was coming down to the Southfield Site and also using NAM’s taxiway car parking. A phone call from the Shop eventually resolved that situation, but I then spent at least ninety minutes down there directing traffic – at least I had the chance to simmer down a bit! 😉
By the way Ritch I also passed you just after Syerston on the A46 and you didn’t wave!! 😀
De-brief
There are several issues that have already been noted re-layouts of both Cockpit-Fest and the Aeroboot; and NAM is already planning a serious de-brief to try and iron out some of the key issues. Comments made on here will be fed into that process.
Aeroboot wise this was our first run with the new Southfield Site configuration / new roadways, so we’re still on a learning curve and we don’t have an ideal solution when using the roadway to allow for access to and from the site.
Sadly the location of the Meteor NF14 wasn’t ideal, but as more aircraft are relocated over onto the Southfield that situation won’t improve. I think in future we will have to move away from the traditional Aeroboot location along the dyke side, which in itself will upset some people and move over to the area behind the Sea Vixen, Buccaneer etc.
Organisationally I was stretched on Saturday morning, with the enforced absence of WOS meaning it wasn’t an ideal start to the weekend. When the Drove Lane gate was opened I was also faced with several vehicles driving round inside looking for their Aeroboot space, having used that gate and not having queued with everyone else (mixed Aerobooters, Cockpiteers and Hangar 2 Exhibitors). This was later also exacerbated with Kit Car visitors ‘mingling’ with NAM’s participants.
As for the Cockpit-Fest layout I wasn’t involved with the location selections, but whatever we seem to try, we always manage to not get it quite right for someone – apologies if that was you!
I see that the themed areas idea has come round again, this was much discussed on another thread and almost forgotten; and yet here we are again!
Details of AHL’s August 7th talk have gone live on the BBC Things To Do website!
Don’t forget the World War I talk this coming Saturday.
Roy is still doing guiding at Coningsby – indeed he was diverted from his Friday morning session to Newark Air Museum to record the interview.
As always a lot more was recorded than was broadcast – I hope that they may include more in the item they are recording on the 28th. I must confess that until I contacted him about the filming I hadn’t fully appreciated that Roy was a ‘Winthorpe Old Boy!’
Langar tonight and Staunton-in-the-Vale tomorrow night.
Just spotted this version of the Monday item http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18505862 which doesn’t seem to be on the i-player!
Alas only one of XH177 from a distance.
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Sorry .. suffering ‘serial dyslexia’ today!! 😮
There’re several in aeropark’s posts #155 and #156
David,
Have you seen the BAPC / Rolls-Royce – engine listing document from 2003?
I presume they were:
Slingsby Grasshopper XP494
Flexiform Striker G-MJIA
But my bigest thanks go to Howard, for his galentry in trying to save our supper, to me you will from now on be my own personal Boss Hog!!!!!!
😀 Brilliant!!! 😀
The previous point will also be acted upon! 😮
I’ve managed to grab a few minutes to arrange for the first album to be added here!
First up I selected the indoor displays in Hangar 2 – the logic being that some external photos have already been posted.
Hopefully the outside display will follow sometime tomorrow.
Minimal captions I’m afraid – but you know who you are! Plus I’m missing the Airfield Research Group stand – each time I tried to get a photo they were surrounded by people. If anyone can assist then email a picture through and we’ll try and get it posted!!
12jaguar – you managed to get the prize off site without being ‘intercepted’ by KE? 😀 Well done!!
I was nearly there but I wasn’t 100% certain (hence :confused:) – it has been a long weekend! 😮
Sadly it didn’t work at drawing in either of the helos on Saturday.
Thanks for leaving the key!!