:dev2: From the Chinese Take-Away? :diablo:
Another aspect is computers in the aircraft industry.
C. 1965 during my apprenticeship at Dunlop (in the era of angliscising the F-4) computers were being tried out for machining operations on auto-lathes, milling machines, etc. There was a (large) air-controlled computer room with restricted access and approved personnel wore white smocks/hats.Roger Smith.
Roger, off topic I know but you weren’t allowed near the compounding control room at the ‘Fort’ were you?
The early 1960s saw the introduction of ‘solid-state control systems’ called Select-O-Weigh blending systems from Howe Richardson Scale [later Chronos Richardson]. I’ve written countless articles about them and the weighing systems they controlled.
I believe the Autosport Division may still operate the later incarnations – happy hours videoing these at the ‘Fort’, but I always hated the smell!!
More reminiscences next time we meet.
Wow so much to choose from.. i’ll let you decide.!:D
No I’d rather not – nobody takes any notice of me! :rolleyes:
I wonder if somewhere like the Newark air museum would like to take it on.. and maybe display her next to the Gannet AEW3 (XP226 i think!) that they already have on superb display.. Or for that matter anywhere that could give it permanent cover.
Whilst you might justify it with the naval connection, which I believe is a ‘sub-theme’ of their Collection & Disposals Policy – what would you take out of their Hangar 2? 😮
Part of the view from ‘Bee’ is online here http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/oldstuff/2005/bee/bee.htm
I saw the video of the interview at the museum once – a very sincere person, who’s missed!
Semantics I know, but ‘Accreditation’ only replaced ‘Registration’ very recently and now there are far more onerous collection and disposal criteria guidelines.
Sadly I don’t see it as a game; only a sad loss to aviation preservation and its reputation 🙁 ; but we’ll obviously all have to differ in our views.
Sorry for a brief absence and that this post is still ‘slightly’ off topic.
I guess people have different experiences [Tangmere and RP Smith] and I suspect this depends on which side of the fence you are on – again that isn’t getting at anyone but merely an observation.
Accreditation and Charitable Status confer responsibilities on those that attain them; but like all things not everyone has the same values and I suspect may differ in how they react to those responsibilities. At least they set points of reference and recommended good practice, which people should aspire to.
Perhaps if such museum status had existed more of the Wyvern and other items might have survived.
… The Charity Commissioners (in cases of Charitable Trusts) are just a paper tiger, as are organisations like the BAPC or Museums & Galleries Commission.
Forgive my cynicism, if you will. It comes through years of experience. Bad experience!
I do understand your view point, but from your comment I would respectfully suggest that you’ve obviously never been through a Charity Commission investigation.
Before you ask I have; successfully helping to overcome a couple of malicious and unfounded complaints about choices made in good faith and with external advice. Those original choices are, even now being recognised as being truly in the best long-term interest of the museum where I volunteer.
That investigation was about 8 years ago; it was onerous and potentially held many personal implications for those involved. Yet we still don’t know for sure who made the un-proven allegations.
I reiterate the point – “to make any agreement work there has to be co-operation and goodwill on both sides – that isn’t getting at anyone but merely an observation”.
I am sure a members on here could name and shame quite a few of the groups/museums in the UK, certainly my comment is based on personal experience as is Tangmeres.
My own was a cockpit of mine on loan, finding it chucked out due to political problems, first thing I knew was turning up finding it dumped in the open uncovered, having been there some time in an area very notorious for scrap metal thefts.
When loaning to a ‘Registered’ or ‘Accredited’ Museum you should be offered a formal written agreement that qualifies how an item is to be stored / displayed; the term of the loan etc; thereby minimising the possibility of such problems arising.
That having been said to make any agreement work there has to be co-operation and goodwill on both sides – that isn’t getting at anyone but merely an observation.
Perhaps there needs to be a rule that the description ‘Museum’ can only be used by those organisations that hold ‘Registered’ or ‘Accredited ‘ status.
When you actually check it’s surprising how many ‘museums’ don’t have such status, but even then some might not pursue best practice all of the time! 🙁
its a crying shame that she now seems to have been cut 🙁
A lot of Lightnings in preservation have been moved that way – including XS417.
See how many joins you can spot!
‘Area 51’ and UAVs…. I thought that Lincolnshire had already got this covered!
😮 RAF Waddington 😀
Depends which sister?
XS417 is here http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/aircraftlist.htm and rumoured to be due for a new coat of paint later this year in the better weather! 😉
Whilst XS416 was depicted elsewhere on the web only this weekend!
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5206 🙂
The following company have done many moves for Newark and also for other museums / aircraft purchasers; they will also try to arrange a move as a ‘return’.
Hutchinson Engineering Services
Old North Road
Weston
Newark
NG23 6SY
Notts
Tel: 01636 821648
Fax: 01636 821354
I’m told that the Broadberry request was made directly to the BBC Sound Archive, without success.
At least the written reports and documentation survived.