do you even know how to do what if analysis. In early 1980s a Flanker radar could barely search at 100km. 20 year later Irbis trials on Su-30 could do same search at more than 400km with essentially same power supply

So the Irbis now can detect stealth aircraft from 400 km ??and who tell you that NIIP N001 and Irbis-E have the same power supply ? they dont even have same aperture size Ffs, and FYI , Flanker radar range was never limited to 100 km only.

that was like 12 years ago performance figures.

Typical argument from you , every performance figure value of Russian system is either given for export version or it is old so now it is different. As if money is unlimited and they change internal components of these system everyday.On the other hand , ofcourse performance figures for US system are always exaggerated

The ground based radar systems does not have the same limitation in terms of power and size. they can easily be 100 times improvement over early 1980s technology.

What exact ground system get over 100 times range improvement ? name one for me
or do you want to compare radar range of a Shilka with radar range of SBX-1 ? Ffs how much of a moron are you ?

F-35 is not in Middleast nor in Eastern EU. and these are the places Russia will really shaft. be practical what assets are there. dealing with cruise missile is work of Pantsir.how can it goes both ways. there are very limited number of fighters in air at given time. but there millions of targets on the ground. how you going to differentiate without assets on the ground

So you think F-22 will work alone in syria and middleast without any support from F-16CJ , EA-18G , E-3 , ITALD , TLAM ..etc ?
And the millions of vehicles on ground donot all have a massive transmitters ( radar ) on them , the millions vehicles on ground do not all look like a tanks or a SAM launcher , and why dont you spend 1 seconds to look up what is RWR or SAR ?

Russia carried out well over 20,000 sorties. there is very little collateral damage relative to intensity of bombing. that’s why you don’t see that much protest nor any one is going to stop them. all the cannon fodder will be disposed off inside Syria.

So basically , you can give no evidence ( source , number ,percentage ), nothing whatsoever to prove your point other than your typical Russian Stronk fanboy attitude , FYI As of August, 2016, U.S. and partner nation aircraft have flown an estimated 111,410 sorties in support of operations in Iraq and Syria.

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Sarcasm aside isn’t SR-71 faster than Mig-25/31?

30 to 90km from where these random numbers coming from?

Do you understand what “let say if” mean?

what weopons F-22 carries in Middleast that can outrange SAM missiles?

It doesn’t need to out range the kinematics range of missiles, it just need to out range the tracking range of radar systems.
And F-22 is not really a multi role asset but aircraft like F-35 can surely carry missiles that out range SAM with else, JSM can reach over 300 nm in hi hi profile, so in the end for both side it really comes down to detect and engage before being detected

how can F-22 differentiate between decoys, false emitters from the ground.

SAR, and decoys go both ways, it not like various flying decoys doesn’t exist

when US coalition has several times have friendly fires on the ground both in Irak/Syria despite very low sortie rates.
Wars are function of superior intelligence, competence and tactics. Russia has repeatedly displayed all those in Syria. There is no quagmire that Obama predicted based on his faulty intelligence. I have no doubt Russia has very big bargaining and intelligence power over Middleastern/Turkey that will enable it to track F-22 locations and flights. after all technically backward Iran has been collecting those UAVs.

Ffs, give me a break, let not act like Russia doesn’t have collateral damage. Btw, you said US have low sortie rate? so what country have more sortie than them in Syria?

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About Zoltan Dani’s remarkable feat seems me that often they also avoid to mention the other and probably even more important part i.e. the ability of keeping his own unity operative even in a relatively small territory overflooded by enemy planes hence the parallel between a probable overextimation of stealth and a quite certain underextimation of the capability, lethality, mobility and above all resilience of modern Ad systems in the common perception.
Dani had just a modernized SA-3 battery, more mobile but not specifically designed to engage stealth planes, now we are talking to cope with state of the art systems with PESA and AESA radars, active radar homing missiles specifically, networked command systems, specifically designed to deal with both stealth planes than with standoff weapons so surely they are almost a force to be reckoned with and commanding a certain change in the operative approach to them.

What iam trying to say is that advance in technology doesn’t happen in one side only .No doubt that modern SAM are much more lethal with AESA radar, long range missiles and what not, but so is modern stealth aircraft, the F-117 didn’t even have a radar or RWR, its main weapons are laser bombs that can only reach out to merely 12 km now you have stealth fighters with blended facet design to reduce diffraction at low frequency, they also carry jammer , RWR and AESA radar as well as standoff weapons that can reach out to 100-500 km, ..etc. So they are very formidable too.Both side will need proper tactics if they want to survive and win the battle. It ridiculous to think that tactics doesn’t matter and you already win if you have a few S-400 batteries or a few F-22

on my experience the qualities of stealth are still now more commonly overextimated than the contrary..

I disagree , ever since the shot down of F-117 in Serbia, all i see is people claiming “stealth is death because we have low-frequency radar ” or something similar.Needless to say how ridiculous that sound, kinda like saying” aircraft are death because we have anti air missiles “

If I were to be any field commander of Russian POV and had S-3/400 various radar stations(space & Air Defense), those pesky ECM units Russia has used in Ukraine and several highly mobile short/medium range anti-air systems in my inventory. Then I would deploy them accordingly.. Meaning not everything is transmitting at the same time.I would rely on datalink informasjon and lure anyone into a Trap.
Now which part of such deployment do you think Russia is not capable of..? Then add AF force multiplier into the mix.

I didnot say Russian is not capable of using tactics. But it go both way , everyone can and will use tactics to win. There are various ways to detect SAM batteries ,using RWR is just one of them ,they can also be detected on FLIR system , satellite pictures , SAR mode of radar ..etc. They can also be lures out with decoys. And so on and so on..etc. To think that a few S-400 batteries or a few F-22 can somehow magically turn the tide of the battle is just naive to say the least.

Please, not this 0.0000zerozero1 of average RCS(even frontal) BS again…

Real radar cross section value is anyone guess. About public values , it could be right , it could be wrong , but that would applied to everything from radar detection range to missiles agility. Unless you have an anechoic chamber and a real F-22 , everything is just speculating.

The lowest trackable RCS figure I’ve seen so far in an official Russian document is 0.05 sq m. And that is way above stealth levels of RCS. The S-300 and -400 are the sort of threat that the F-22 designers would have taken into account.

IMHO, S-300/400 both should be able to detect/track F-22 as long as it get close enough ( same hold true for any radar even missiles seeker) . But the problem was never be “can the S-400 detect F-22, F-35”, but rather “can it detect and engage those aircraft before it get detected and attacked by them “. That is one of the issue with low frequency radars, they can detect stealth platform from long distance but themselves are also very detectable

Prove it doesn’t have a data link.

So far the ASRAAM is the only one of the two missiles that has successfully demonstrated a live OTS shot. Where’s the evidence of MICA IR having done this?

http://defense-update.com/newscast/0309/asraam_loal_test_130309.html

Iam pretty sure that i read some where about Raf doing an OTS shot with Mica