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  • in reply to: Would F-35 make sense for India in 2020-2030 period? #2261297
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    The question is what is the product of that indigenous product – Tejas certainly doesn’t sound worth it. By the time it enters service in meaningful numbers it will be obsolete. As stated it’s kind of like building T-55s to tackle M1A2s.

    I look at Tejas Mk. 1 as a smaller J-10A; Mk. 2 as a smaller J-10B, minus the indigenous engine. If Mk. 2 is fielded by 2020 that puts it a mere 5 years behind PLAAF, and certainly in line with Pakistan’s development as the other major threat axis.

    India faces diverse challenges and has a diverse array of program to meet those challenges. Dropping F-35 in anywhere in that mix would almost certainly be a step backwards for the nation. The only paths to India operating F-35 I can envision if an Indo-Russian LMFS program is instituted but later falls apart requiring a rapid substitute, or if AMCA similarly collapses requiring same. Even in those circumstances F-35 would hardly be a shoe-in vs. domestic Rafale.

    in reply to: Would F-35 make sense for India in 2020-2030 period? #2261353
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    It does depend on whether your self sufficiency comes at the expense of capability.

    For most of the PRC’s history, it did. This is where India, with its greater access to global markets, has an advantage. Tejas is not coming at the expense of more capable platforms, those are in the pipeline as well. Frankly I don’t think China is as far ahead (in terms of planned/fielded capabilities, not self-sufficiency or numbers) as you seem to think they are. MMRCA is taking its time, but the closest PLAAF equivalent to Rafale is J-10B and that isn’t in production yet either.

    As for India’s fighter self sufficiency program, I’d call it a disaster. They’ve been trying to become self sufficient in fighters since 1950s (HF-24 Marut and Ajeet). Yet in 2013, they’re still importing large numbers of foreign aircraft and have even reverted to importing such basic things as trainers.

    One of India’s major problems is that they didn’t follow through and build upon the work done with HF-24, etc., which meant that they basically had to start over again with Tejas. And now you’re proposing they pull the plug again. Certainly the Indian effort has been haphazard and problems continue to the current day, the thing to do is fix those problems, not abandon the endeavour.

    in reply to: Would F-35 make sense for India in 2020-2030 period? #2261369
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    The real argument is “defence need/want” versus “industrial need/want.” The two get blurred in modern military procurement and these days “industrial need/want” tends to win out. Though in India pseudo-Socialist obsession with self sufficiency has always pushed the industrial need/want.

    Self-sufficiency is a core component of national security. All nations strive for self-sufficiency within the limits of their resources. The reason China is in a position to field its own 5G fighters in the 2020s is because it has already put in the hard yards over the course of 50 years now — a path you would have India abandon in favour of perpetual reliance upon foreigners.

    in reply to: Would F-35 make sense for India in 2020-2030 period? #2261430
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    Nope, I did mention continue with AMCA. Also there’s indigenized PAK FA (FGFA).

    Can’t do AMCA without the technology infusion from MMRCA, and the level of indigenisation associated with FGFA is not sufficient to move the industry forward.

    In any case, AMCA is currently on hold and will hopefully be replaced by joint Indo-Russian LMFS including engine technology transfer.

    in reply to: Would F-35 make sense for India in 2020-2030 period? #2261443
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    So in other words the suggestion is for India to abandon indigenous development? I don’t think that’s going to happen, nor should it happen.

    in reply to: Did the AF pick the wrong aircraft #2261566
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    The F-35 decision was premised upon the supposed wisdom of operating a single fast jet type. That rationale was thrown out the window when F-35 couldn’t deliver on its promises and had to be supplemented with Super Hornet. The decisions to acquire Super Hornet, and later to make the acquisition permanent, were sensible enough in a bureaucratic sort of way, but this ignores is how irresponsible and misguided the decisions to join the JSF program, and later to confirm F-35 as Australia’s next combat aircraft, were in the first place. Those decisions should never have been taken, and everyone knows why they were taken: because the nation under John Howard was fully committed to licking America’s balls and serving as its ‘junior sheriff’ (as G.W.B. put it) in the War of Terror.

    in reply to: Did the AF pick the wrong aircraft #2261574
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    There is no doubt that Australia picked the wrong aircraft in F-35 (+ Super Hornet) as opposed to Rafale or Typhoon.

    in reply to: Military Aviation News-2013 #2261585
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    Spying scandal sets back U.S. chances for fighter jet sale to Brazil

    This article demonstrates just how schizophrenic the relationship between domestic politics and national security generally is — everywhere that is, not just in Brazil. Talk of an absence of trust in the United States on account of the Snowden revelations … wtf? You are talking of the nation that previously orchestrated a coup against the Brazilian government and installed a military dictatorship! Of course they are spying on you! Of course they are not to be trusted! Who the **** are these politicians who ever thought otherwise? They should be removed from office for gross incompetence. The norteamericanos are not your friends, will never be your friends. Nations do not have friends, only interests.

    P.S. The French are spying on you as well. The Swedes … who knows what resources they can muster.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2261618
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    please help me with this

    total crashes in IAF

    MiG-29 = 13
    Su-30MKI = 4
    Mirage 2000 = 2

    Warbirds.in lists 7 Mirage 2K crashes from 1987-2008, plus an additional 2 in 2012 makes at least 9 assuming no crashes 2009-2011 and 2013.

    in reply to: The 'JUST A NICE PIC…' thread #2262269
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    http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/SpudmanWP/f_35_107_zps23ef3d7b.jpg

    Improved!

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    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2262870
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    Have you tried this site?

    http://www.warbirds.in/crashes.html

    I found that one, yes! It lists 13 MiG-29 crashes from 1994-2008; it’s a pity it doesn’t have data for the last few years, but still an excellent resource.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2262879
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    Is there a comprehensive record of IAF aircraft accidents anywhere? I’m particularly interested in the number of MiG-29s lost to date.

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    A bit odd to buy half a dozen fighters and then retire them 7 years later, i think.
    Why not just lease if its an interim solution ?

    Don’t ask me — I’m Australian. 😉

    in reply to: The 'JUST A NICE PIC…' thread #2263196
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    Yeah, that actually looks good.

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    Brazil is about to retire its Mirage 2000s. If they cannot operate 12 aircraft acquired only four to six years ago, their chances of operating 48 seem near non-existent.

    Brazil’s M2Ks were always intended as interim aircraft ahead of FX-2 acquisition. The airframes are coming up on 30 years of service.

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