What is the point in an SK or Japanese MRBM? They have no WMD afaik, and I seriously doubt they would be able to develop RVs with sufficient accuracy to make the missiles have a small enough CEP to be of much use as a tactical weapon with conventional warheads.
Why do they want these unless they are also thinking about a nuclear weapons programme?
Aren’t the Chinese building a conventional missile to hit carriers? No reason the Japanese or Koreans with US help couldn’t build one with a similar CEP.
Great photos, interesting story. Do you have anymore information on the damage after it missed the mattresses? It doesn’t look too severe in the photo.
And why weren’t the weapons or tanks jettisoned before they attempted a landing? Surely that’d be the first thing you’d do if you were afraid of doing an emergency landing with all that weight on one wing.
With successful demonstration of 18000 hours during the DMAFT! Aircraft designed for 8000 h has often only demonstrated 16000 h. Shouldn’t be SUCH a big deal unless there are some serious flaws in the airframe structure.
I always assumed that they could go past the predicted life expectancy, but it still will be a fairly worn airframe by the time it comes out of UK service.
How much does the update from Tranche 1 cost, per plane? And how much is each T1 plane worth on the market, after several years of use? You’d think other Typhoon operators (e.g. Saudi Arabia) would jump at the chance of getting cheap barely used planes.
Planes that are only good for A2A use, can not be upgraded fully to T3, with parts that make the wings too weak to carry weapons like Storm Shadow, and will never be fully compatible with the rest of their fleet?
It’d make sense for a country that only operates T1 (Austria?) or a country that only needs a few cheap a/c for A2A use (Romania?) but not many others.
They won’t be ‘barely used’ after 10 years. They’ll each have a few thousand hours on the clock.
Indeed. And I seem to remember that Typhoons were designed with a relatively short life on them compared to other fighters to begin with, 6000 hours was it? Not the best basis for a sale.
It has also emerged that the RAF is to scrap more than 50 Eurofighter / Typhoon jets which became operational only three years ago at a cost of more than £4.5bn because it cannot afford to update them.
We already knew this was going to happen, it is the T1’s being written off. I don’t know how soon it will happen though.
actually, the “all time low” is also the case in europe, which is easy to understand, since the US alone have a way bigger defense budget than all european countries put together.
Actually the difference is quite small between EU and US defence expenditure.
You are correct in that they serve on the frigates, BUT those are different missiles. They have a booster and are fired from box launchers, they would need extensive modification to be usable on an aircraft. The UGMs were retired in the last round of defence cuts IIRC. The only aircraft that we use Harpoon with is Nimrod, the Typhoons are supposedly capable of carrying them, but I’ve never heard of an RAF Typhoon ever carrying one. Since the Nimrod is going out of service, the air launched Harpoons will either leave service or more hopefully go into storage. Obviously this doesn’t affect the surface ships since they aren’t leaving service, well not this round of cuts anyway 😉
Ahem, not to put too finer point on it but the T22’s ARE leaving service. That just leaves the T23’s capable of firing Harpoon’s in UK service.
If you hadn’t started with the phrase “modern day Puma” i’d have agreed with you. The Puma had/has a nasty habit of crashing that might warrant a slightly higher cost solution to stop this.
The Naval Merlins are expensive because they form a large part of our high end ASW capability, but I agree that we definitely need a cheaper solution for our battlefield transport needs. Perhaps stripping out some of the less necessary kit and simply buying in higher numbers (and pushing exports) would go some way towards that without buying a new aircraft type.
Stealth and A2G are not factors here. You cant have it both ways, you cant say RCS is a factor versus the Su-35 and then say F-35 stealth is irrelevant.
Or F-35s/ F-22 are not relevant, then tout the Typhoons A2G capabilities.The fact of the Matter is that the TYphoon is a DOG when compared to the Su-35, T-50, F-22. It cant run cant fight cant climb.
Why did you bother to start this thread? You began with a question regarding certain aircraft, but obviously from these posts you’d already made up your mind and just wanted a chance to slate it.
Pointless.
I doubt they could find a buyer for the Ark, so maybe she could be made into the museum, shes in better shape than Invincible anyway. It would probably be quite sad to see Invincible in her current state, she’s been stripped for every useful part to keep her sisters going.
Very interesting. I thought they needed to modify the 30 quite a bit (the proposed Aster 45) in order to make it ABM capable.
Invincible has been in mothball since 2005, was due to decommision this year.
People already try to sue the SAR guys. My Uncle worked for the MOD once and had to deal with a case where the rescued people sued because the winch crew popped the inflatable raft they’d drifted out to sea on so it didn’t get pulled up into the rotor.
Indeed, Southern QRA probably spend more time dealing with terror alerts than Bears.
The former has chosen the Pantsir-S1 and the latter, the SPYDER for land-based SHORADS. If you’re arguing for inter-services commonality as a selling point, it’s unlikely that most export customers will be looking to replace systems for all three services at the same time, like the UK is with ASRAAM/CAMM.
No, but plenty of countries may find they need it in one role, which is still a decent export order. You never know, they may decide later that commonality is a good thing as well.