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    I agree there are very few developing countrys who want to buy the F-16 even though its the most cost effective fighter on the market. That leaves russian jets most often bought used as the only real alternative. Although these russian jets have capable performance, things like lack of range, high operating costs and inferior systems make this a second runner to the F-16. As has been mentioned about the T/A-50, US arms restrictions as well as no real cost advantage over the F-16 means that the US will have to greatly subsidize this jet for those who are willing to buy it. There is a need for a low cost fighter, a fighter that is as cheap and simple to operate as third generation fighters, but takes advantage of engine and airframe advances of forth generation fighters. The FC-1 looks to be the only fighter capable of filling this nitch, I see this jet as being equal to the F-20 tigershark, but at an affordable price. I believe the engine will be a bit maintenaince intensive for this jet, but if the airframe is cheap and reliable, then I think they may pull this off.

    Latin America- Most the countrys are just getting by with their old junk like mirages. Brazil is buying su-30s, Argentina is buying some F-16s. Venezuela already has F-16s and Peru is doing ok with its M2Ks and mig-29s. Mexico is sort of a toothless giant with only 10 F-5s, but its not under any serious threat either, so I could see them buying L-159s rather than the big expense of used F-16s or russian fighters. Colombia has its hands full in its war on drug/rebels, so their not buying any fancy fighters. A capable low cost fighter in the 15 million range could be a huge success in replacing all the mirage/kfir junk alot of these AFs are kicking it with.

    Asia- I dont think I have to comment about countrys like Japan, Korea, India, China. But southeast asian countrys like Indonisia and Malaysia can afford to buy decent hardware, most the rest are emerging or poor and not ready to spend the 25 million or so for either F-16 or russian jets. A low cost fighter is needed for these countrys.

    Both nothern and subsaharan africa have in the past bought mainly russian hardware, as there is no longer cheap russian fighters on the market, only a few can manage to keep old or newer used russian fighters operational. If a low cost fighter like the FC-1 meets expectations, it will be a big seller here.

    in reply to: An end to third world air forces? #2684200
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    Since when did the FC-1 use the same engine as the MiG-21?

    I made a typo, Im sure youre aware that the FC-1 has the same engine as the mig-29.

    in reply to: An end to third world air forces? #2684212
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    mixtex, the F-5E is a joke, it’s an old airframe, old avionics, old radar and everything, it’s just old. This would be like putting the Mig-21 back into production. Do you see what you’re saying.

    You need something newer and better like FC-1 over F-5E/Mig-21.

    I certainly don’t see why FC-1 is a big question mark, I think we’re all 100% sure it will be bought by Pakistan, not sure about China but possibly.

    Ill accept the F-5 as being in the same class of fighter as the mig-21, but its no joke as a fighter. Remember what holds back the mig-21 as being a capable fighter is mainly its lack of range. The F-5 has huge range, its also is cheaper to operate and easier to maintain than the mig-21. Answere me this, is the mig-29 cheap to operate? The FC-1 will use the same engine as the mig-21, so I dont see how AFs who cant commit to the well proven mig-29 airframe are going to opt for the FC-1. At best I see the FC-1 as a very affordable F-20 tigershark, aerodynamically its got nothing over the F-5. The fact that the USAF and many other AFs around the world are keeping the T-38 in service shows that this is an extremely cost effective jet despite that modern advanced trainers are available.

    in reply to: The Rock Quiz! #1989214
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    Thats too easy Kabir.
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    in reply to: An end to third world air forces? #2684245
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    Hey, thats what you need to do Srbin, instead of posting your drawings of those tailess stealth delta fighters, you should design a cheap fighter like the FC-1 or F-5. Now that would sell well.

    in reply to: An end to third world air forces? #2684255
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    The FC-1 is not in service yet, and until it is, its a big question mark. But yes, if they manage to pull off all the engine and airframe technology theyre pushing and end up with acceptable flying hours and decent performance as well as be able to sell it for the dirt cheap costs they claim, then yes, it may sell alright. The fact is the F-5 is already proven in these areas, and is certainly cheaper to operate and maintain no matter how well the FC-1 comes out.

    in reply to: An end to third world air forces? #2684266
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    Obviously countrys like Argentina arent going to buy block 60s. A barebones F-16 is a hellava fighter by any standard, and can match anything performancewise. Figher costs are a clowdy subject, and different AFs pay drasticaclly different prices compared to eachother. I think its safe to say that the F-16 and T/F-50 are within 10 million of eachother. Ive seen plenty of sources that mention the F-16 being recently sold new for 25 million, exactly equal to the T/A-50. Simply stated, the gripen, A/T-50 and F-16 are too complex for 3rd world AFs. Be serious for a moment, can you really see sub-saharan african nations operating something like the gripen which you keep trying to claim as being MUCH simpler than the F-16? No ofcourse not, its a joke to even consider. Could these same countrys buy and operate the F-5 which is almost in the same league as the PC-9/Tucano type turboprops in aquisition and operating costs? Yes, that they can do.

    in reply to: An end to third world air forces? #2684275
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    Based on what stats? further more what kind of F-16?

    (concerning the F-16 being as cheap to buy and operate as the T/F-50)

    What kind of stats would you like me to give you? I can post webpages that very clearly describe the help that Lockheed Martin gave Korea to develope this fighter/trainer, they basically became a partner in the project, infact even the design drawings for the T/A-50 are in english. I can post webpages about the F-16 airframe design and how that project was meant to test lower complexity of airframe design. I think everyone on this forum is pretty well familiar with the F-404 and F-101, so I dont think I need to post anything about that. You already know the prices on these two aircraft so I dont have to mention that. The T/A-50 was meant to do two things, it was meant as a technology aquistion project for Korea, and it was meant to be sold on the advanced trainer market. The fact is is its not going to sell well as an advanced trainer because many of the AFs that used to use the T-38s as advanced trainers no longer need it because heavy fighters like the F-4 are being phased out. The T/A-50 is simply equal in price and operating costs as the F-16. I think eveyone on this forum knows that and I defy anyone to prove differently. If the F-5 were in large scale production, it would be dirt cheap to buy, 10 million range, and dirt cheap to operate, both for airframe and powerplant operating costs.

    in reply to: Teenage pregnancy – who is to blame? #1989227
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    The issue of teenage single moms is a sticky issue because there is so much hidden agendas and false piosity. Let me start off with the obvious, many teenage girls want to be moms, and the babyboomer generation of parents support and even want their daughter to be single moms. All this stuff about who is responcible is most often alot of crocadile tears to make the situation look like it was all an unplanned accident. Im not going to be judgemental and say, no, teenage girls shouldnt be mothers. I think any woman should have the right to be a single mom, there is no reason a woman should have to depend on a man or be in a relationship with a man to have a baby (even though I think thats the best way).
    The other issue about parents having to be informed of a daughters pregnancy or intent to have an abortion is a difficult problem which I dont have any easy answere for.

    in reply to: What's the difference #1989260
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    Dont do what a woman wants and you dont get something you want.
    Dont do what a terrorist wants and you do get something you dont want.

    in reply to: What Do You Think About Smoking?? #1989338
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    Im quite happy to say I never got hooked on cigarettes even though Ive tried them, although I dont really hold in the smoke in my lungs the same way serious smokers do. I feel very sorry for people who are addicted to cigarettes as I think its really a nasty habit to smoke all day. I wish they would do more genetic engineering with tobaco plants as Im convinced that genetic engineering will bring castastrofic damage onto some type of species, Id like that species that gets wiped out to be the tobaco plant. Smoking has been decreasing greatly in the US, its sad to see it increasingly used here in Mexico by the youth.

    in reply to: An end to third world air forces? #2684414
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    Okay, is it just me or are aircraft becoming too expensive for the worlds smaller air forces to purchase? For example, how can countries like Angola, Cuba, Cambodia, Bulgaria or El Salvador be expected to purchase EF2000’s or Rafales to sustain their air forces in the future?
    Does anyone else think we will see the end of national air forces from nations such as these unless a new cheap fighter is put on the market by either US or Russia?
    How can nations such as these be expected to defend themselves unless such an aircraft is introduced?

    “cheap fighters” like the Korean T/F-50 are not cheap or simple to operate. The T/F-50 is about the same price and complexity as the F-16, so why would you opt for a smaller, lower power fighter when you can get the top of the line performace at the same price? That basically means there are no cheap fighters out there, the F-16 is as cheap and simple as it gets (keep in mind the F-16 was designed with a low complexity, all aluminum structure to be a cheap alternative to the F-15). Ive said this before, a fighter like the F-5 needs to be put pack into production, it could be produced for as low as 10 to 15 million and would be extremely cheap to maintain and operate, and require much less technically skilled maintenaice personal. The F-5 can still hold its own against modern fighers, infact a major reason that the F-20 wasnt accepted by the USAF is that its performance was not that much better than the F-5E.

    in reply to: Mirage III vs MiG-21BIS #2685201
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    From Flight Int.:
    “The Indian air force is to install up to 18 Thales-supplied low-level transportable radars along its border with Pakistan to detect low-flying aircraft and unmanned air vehicles……..India’s Bharat Electronics is seeking to licence-manufacture the radars.”
    All looks like a low level chase. Catch me, if you can. But first you have detect me. 9 of 10 sorties, the attackers were spotted after the attack and out of reach. “Dogfight-capability” is of limited use there. Does the EW-suit of the attckers outsmart the AAMs of the defenders?

    Dogfight capability is by no means of limited use. It simply means that BVR capabilitys of fighters is of limited use where ground radar has total coverage. The India/Pakistan border will be a GCI combat envirornment. Why would you rely on the tiny of coverage of your own aircrafts radar when ground radar network already has the entire countrys border under complete coverage?

    in reply to: Modern Fighter data processors #2685204
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    Were talking about embedded programming here, speed and stability are the main factors. And when I say stability, Im talking .99999 error free. C++ is used simply because most all commercial software contractors use it, its not the best language to use when it comes to error tolerance. Since C will run in C++ compilors, you cant really say they are a different language. Original C has been improved by using C++ features to get rid of backwardness of that language. C was originally intended to be a replacement for assembly language, a sort of high level assembly. Pascal is used because its fast, almost as fast as C, and because its very simple. Simple means easy to understand which improves error tolerance. Ada is the best, and was specifacly made for this area of zero fault tolerance programming. It was originally shunned because its compilors produced slow bloated code (C++ compilors originally did also), but that has since been greatly improved. Ada still hasnt caught on as industry standard simply because so few programmers are trained to use it. http://www.adapower.com

    in reply to: Fastest fighter #2685685
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    Airframe heating becomes a huge factor at Mach 3, which is why the SR-71 is made entirely out of Titanium and the Foxbat is made entirely out of steel.

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