Shadow1That livery on the A330 is stunning! Probably one of the best looking Airbuses around! Welcome to the forum!
Shadow1Sir,
You are very un-inform and very misguide, have you ever been to a NASCAR race I’m guessing no, well I can tell you from first hand experaince that NASCAR is far more exciting to watch in public then any peice of crap F1 race since I’ve seen both. Maybe we Yanks like the idea of being able to see the whole race and have drivers who we can relete to and arebn’t afraid to let you walk and talk with them in the pit area. And you know what we ahve real racing in NASCAR you know drafting and passing and rubbing.(Thats real racing)
As for who is at fault who care F1 was dead way befor ehtis farce happen, as for your statement about HARNS getting death threats please show me where these thing are I remember the whole thing because alot of us used these Harnesess in Warbirds I know that my dads T-34 had the same Companys straps as alot of open Cart guys and for a matter of fact so does your almighty F1 who use the same ones. Get your facts straight before you go making False Statements nothing like turning this thread into a Yank Bashing thread but it doesn’t suprise me one bit.
As I try to point out in other post on this thread the reason F1 doesn’t go over in the US is because they don’t go well on US TV and plus how many US drivers are their and US model Cars and engines or better yet product if you notice the big Advert over the Start/Finsh line it was an Aussy Beer Company yes it does mean alot to racing fans hera in the States but then again you don’t get that at all.
RER
You asked me to back up my claims of threats made against various individuals when Dale Earnhart was killed. Read the link below!
Shadow1Sir,
You are very un-inform and very misguide, have you ever been to a NASCAR race I’m guessing no, well I can tell you from first hand experaince that NASCAR is far more exciting to watch in public then any peice of crap F1 race since I’ve seen both. Maybe we Yanks like the idea of being able to see the whole race and have drivers who we can relete to and arebn’t afraid to let you walk and talk with them in the pit area. And you know what we ahve real racing in NASCAR you know drafting and passing and rubbing.(Thats real racing)
As for who is at fault who care F1 was dead way befor ehtis farce happen, as for your statement about HARNS getting death threats please show me where these thing are I remember the whole thing because alot of us used these Harnesess in Warbirds I know that my dads T-34 had the same Companys straps as alot of open Cart guys and for a matter of fact so does your almighty F1 who use the same ones. Get your facts straight before you go making False Statements nothing like turning this thread into a Yank Bashing thread but it doesn’t suprise me one bit.
As I try to point out in other post on this thread the reason F1 doesn’t go over in the US is because they don’t go well on US TV and plus how many US drivers are their and US model Cars and engines or better yet product if you notice the big Advert over the Start/Finsh line it was an Aussy Beer Company yes it does mean alot to racing fans hera in the States but then again you don’t get that at all.
RER
You asked me to back up my claims of threats made against various individuals when Dale Earnhart was killed. Read the link below!
Shadow1Sir,
You are very un-inform and very misguide, have you ever been to a NASCAR race I’m guessing no, well I can tell you from first hand experaince that NASCAR is far more exciting to watch in public then any peice of crap F1 race since I’ve seen both. Maybe we Yanks like the idea of being able to see the whole race and have drivers who we can relete to and arebn’t afraid to let you walk and talk with them in the pit area. And you know what we ahve real racing in NASCAR you know drafting and passing and rubbing.(Thats real racing)
As for who is at fault who care F1 was dead way befor ehtis farce happen, as for your statement about HARNS getting death threats please show me where these thing are I remember the whole thing because alot of us used these Harnesess in Warbirds I know that my dads T-34 had the same Companys straps as alot of open Cart guys and for a matter of fact so does your almighty F1 who use the same ones. Get your facts straight before you go making False Statements nothing like turning this thread into a Yank Bashing thread but it doesn’t suprise me one bit.
As I try to point out in other post on this thread the reason F1 doesn’t go over in the US is because they don’t go well on US TV and plus how many US drivers are their and US model Cars and engines or better yet product if you notice the big Advert over the Start/Finsh line it was an Aussy Beer Company yes it does mean alot to racing fans hera in the States but then again you don’t get that at all.
RER
You are right, I have never been to a Nascar event although I do hope that I will one day have the opportunity to attend one in the future. However, I have followed enough coverage on the various networks to know a little bit about the sport. I have a great deal of respect for any man who straps himself into a race car every week and is willing to put his life on the line to entertain their fans. However, I do prefer Formula One over Nascar.
You mentioned that there are no American sponsors in F1. Please take a look at the Williams BMW cars and you will notice two very well known American companies that sponsors the cars driven by Mark Webber and Nick Heidfeld. They are Budweiser and Hewlett-Packard. At the same time, the two Renaults are sponsored by Boeing Aircraft as the two companies do a lot of Aerodynamics research together. But the biggest is probably the one that sponsors the ultimate team in F1, Marlboro. This company has been linked to Ferrari for as long as I can remember. So there are quite a few American sponsors in Formula One and I am sure that they could do something about getting an American driver behind the wheel of these machines.
Shadow1Sir,
You are very un-inform and very misguide, have you ever been to a NASCAR race I’m guessing no, well I can tell you from first hand experaince that NASCAR is far more exciting to watch in public then any peice of crap F1 race since I’ve seen both. Maybe we Yanks like the idea of being able to see the whole race and have drivers who we can relete to and arebn’t afraid to let you walk and talk with them in the pit area. And you know what we ahve real racing in NASCAR you know drafting and passing and rubbing.(Thats real racing)
As for who is at fault who care F1 was dead way befor ehtis farce happen, as for your statement about HARNS getting death threats please show me where these thing are I remember the whole thing because alot of us used these Harnesess in Warbirds I know that my dads T-34 had the same Companys straps as alot of open Cart guys and for a matter of fact so does your almighty F1 who use the same ones. Get your facts straight before you go making False Statements nothing like turning this thread into a Yank Bashing thread but it doesn’t suprise me one bit.
As I try to point out in other post on this thread the reason F1 doesn’t go over in the US is because they don’t go well on US TV and plus how many US drivers are their and US model Cars and engines or better yet product if you notice the big Advert over the Start/Finsh line it was an Aussy Beer Company yes it does mean alot to racing fans hera in the States but then again you don’t get that at all.
RER
You are right, I have never been to a Nascar event although I do hope that I will one day have the opportunity to attend one in the future. However, I have followed enough coverage on the various networks to know a little bit about the sport. I have a great deal of respect for any man who straps himself into a race car every week and is willing to put his life on the line to entertain their fans. However, I do prefer Formula One over Nascar.
You mentioned that there are no American sponsors in F1. Please take a look at the Williams BMW cars and you will notice two very well known American companies that sponsors the cars driven by Mark Webber and Nick Heidfeld. They are Budweiser and Hewlett-Packard. At the same time, the two Renaults are sponsored by Boeing Aircraft as the two companies do a lot of Aerodynamics research together. But the biggest is probably the one that sponsors the ultimate team in F1, Marlboro. This company has been linked to Ferrari for as long as I can remember. So there are quite a few American sponsors in Formula One and I am sure that they could do something about getting an American driver behind the wheel of these machines.
Shadow1Stupid, bigoted and ill-informed remarks.
F1 was already dead in the US. After a couple of sellout years at Indy, the public lost interest and fans stopped comming due in part to high prices for hotels and tickets.
Let’s face it, the last few years haven’t been very exciting with most races being Ferrari parade laps.
And with no American drivers or cars in the race, there wan’t much to draw them to the sport.
The fact that American fans do not wish to make the trip to Indiannapolis to take in the F1 race because of high prices can’t really be blamed on the FIA or the F1 circus. The people who own these establishments should be the ones taking the blame as they know full well they stand to make a substential amount of money from the people who travel great distances to watch the race. However, I do agree ticket prices are much too high considering that the fans do not have access to the pits unless you have connections within the F1 world.
I do agree as well that the last few years, Ferrari has dominated the F1 world and that it probably took away from the excitment of years past. However, you must give credit to teams like McLaren and Renault and Toyota who have worked extremely hard during the off-season to be able to take the fight to Ferrari.
As for the lack of American drivers in F1, I don’t know why that is. Scott Speed has been given an opportunity to test for Red Bull Racing and I hope he will succeed. At the same time, guys like Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart could have a future in F1 if they were willing to make the transition. I am sure that if either one of them expressed an interest, they would surely be invited to drive for one of the better teams (Ferrari or Toyota or even Renault). Apparently, on Saturday past, Danica Patreick was invited by BAR to fly to England to test drive for the team. She unfortunately turned them down stating that she had to focus on her job with Rahal-Letterman. Who knows what the future holds for American drivers.
Shadow1Stupid, bigoted and ill-informed remarks.
F1 was already dead in the US. After a couple of sellout years at Indy, the public lost interest and fans stopped comming due in part to high prices for hotels and tickets.
Let’s face it, the last few years haven’t been very exciting with most races being Ferrari parade laps.
And with no American drivers or cars in the race, there wan’t much to draw them to the sport.
The fact that American fans do not wish to make the trip to Indiannapolis to take in the F1 race because of high prices can’t really be blamed on the FIA or the F1 circus. The people who own these establishments should be the ones taking the blame as they know full well they stand to make a substential amount of money from the people who travel great distances to watch the race. However, I do agree ticket prices are much too high considering that the fans do not have access to the pits unless you have connections within the F1 world.
I do agree as well that the last few years, Ferrari has dominated the F1 world and that it probably took away from the excitment of years past. However, you must give credit to teams like McLaren and Renault and Toyota who have worked extremely hard during the off-season to be able to take the fight to Ferrari.
As for the lack of American drivers in F1, I don’t know why that is. Scott Speed has been given an opportunity to test for Red Bull Racing and I hope he will succeed. At the same time, guys like Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart could have a future in F1 if they were willing to make the transition. I am sure that if either one of them expressed an interest, they would surely be invited to drive for one of the better teams (Ferrari or Toyota or even Renault). Apparently, on Saturday past, Danica Patreick was invited by BAR to fly to England to test drive for the team. She unfortunately turned them down stating that she had to focus on her job with Rahal-Letterman. Who knows what the future holds for American drivers.
Shadow1Why do people criticise the teams and drivers? They were told by Michelin it wasnt safe, and they didnt….. which to me is a bloody good thing.
Good ol’Bernie couldnt run the risk of cancelling the race as that would of been even more of a disaster than running just 6 cars. In my opinion this was the only and proper way of solving the problem.
there would of been even more of an uproar had a driver been killed. the teams would of been taken to the cleaners….. you critics seem to forget that when the steering arm broke on Sennas car, Frank Williams was taken to court for his death.
Who would of been held responsible for anybodies death on Sunday?
I agree with your analysis. Unfortunately, when you watch autoracing sports in North America such as Nascar or Cart or IRL, the fans aren’t completely happy until half of the field is either in the garages getting fixed or have crashed out. I remember a Nascar race earlier this year when 25 cars were involved in a pile up. The fans were estatic to see the action first hand as it happened in fron of the grand stand. But then, when one of their greats is killed, they will go as far as threatening those they believe to be responsible. When Dale Earnhart was killed a few years back, I remember the harnesses manufacturer getting death threats at home and at the office. It was ridiculous.
North American fans will never fully understand what F1 is really about. These cars are designed to put on display not only the driver’s skills but the technology one might see in a few years on a car he might purchase. For them, unless there is a plethora of crashes and hundred of thousands of dollars destroyed, the race isn’t worth watching.
Ralf Schumacher’s crash last year, where he almost lost his life, was enough to push Michelin to make the decision to advise the teams using their tires to not compete on the grounds that they believed their product wasn’t safe to race. As much as it pissed me off because I had been waiting to see the next chapter in the Alonso and Raikkonen rivalry. But I understood and supported the decision. Ralf Schumacher’s crash on Saturday was a reminder that anything could happen and seeing what happened with the Senna crash, no team is safe from prosecution. If I had been a team principal facing this kind of decision, I would have done exactly what they did yesterday. There will be other races and maybe, the American public will calm down and realize what was at stake! But that’s just my opinion! Cheers!
Shadow1Why do people criticise the teams and drivers? They were told by Michelin it wasnt safe, and they didnt….. which to me is a bloody good thing.
Good ol’Bernie couldnt run the risk of cancelling the race as that would of been even more of a disaster than running just 6 cars. In my opinion this was the only and proper way of solving the problem.
there would of been even more of an uproar had a driver been killed. the teams would of been taken to the cleaners….. you critics seem to forget that when the steering arm broke on Sennas car, Frank Williams was taken to court for his death.
Who would of been held responsible for anybodies death on Sunday?
I agree with your analysis. Unfortunately, when you watch autoracing sports in North America such as Nascar or Cart or IRL, the fans aren’t completely happy until half of the field is either in the garages getting fixed or have crashed out. I remember a Nascar race earlier this year when 25 cars were involved in a pile up. The fans were estatic to see the action first hand as it happened in fron of the grand stand. But then, when one of their greats is killed, they will go as far as threatening those they believe to be responsible. When Dale Earnhart was killed a few years back, I remember the harnesses manufacturer getting death threats at home and at the office. It was ridiculous.
North American fans will never fully understand what F1 is really about. These cars are designed to put on display not only the driver’s skills but the technology one might see in a few years on a car he might purchase. For them, unless there is a plethora of crashes and hundred of thousands of dollars destroyed, the race isn’t worth watching.
Ralf Schumacher’s crash last year, where he almost lost his life, was enough to push Michelin to make the decision to advise the teams using their tires to not compete on the grounds that they believed their product wasn’t safe to race. As much as it pissed me off because I had been waiting to see the next chapter in the Alonso and Raikkonen rivalry. But I understood and supported the decision. Ralf Schumacher’s crash on Saturday was a reminder that anything could happen and seeing what happened with the Senna crash, no team is safe from prosecution. If I had been a team principal facing this kind of decision, I would have done exactly what they did yesterday. There will be other races and maybe, the American public will calm down and realize what was at stake! But that’s just my opinion! Cheers!
Shadow1Is there any chances Air Canada could renew the order at a later date once their problems are dealt with?
Shadow1Great shots all around! The pictures of Paris make me somewhat homesick!
Shadow1I was hoping for a race but as soon as the Michelin cars began pulling into pitlane, I turned it off. A friend of mine and I had planned on driving all the way down from southwestern Ontario to Indiannapolis for the week-end to see the qualifying and the race. But, because of work, we were forced to cancel our plans at the last minute. Looking back, I am glad we had to stay home.
However, this is the first time in years that F1 has been interesting. Ferrari hasn’t been dominant like it has been and two new drivers are emerging as the future of Formula 1. There is a chance the United States will loose their Grand Prix but then again, maybe not. Time will tell! At least, I will still be able to travel to Montreal for the Canadian Grand Prix!
Shadow1I was hoping for a race but as soon as the Michelin cars began pulling into pitlane, I turned it off. A friend of mine and I had planned on driving all the way down from southwestern Ontario to Indiannapolis for the week-end to see the qualifying and the race. But, because of work, we were forced to cancel our plans at the last minute. Looking back, I am glad we had to stay home.
However, this is the first time in years that F1 has been interesting. Ferrari hasn’t been dominant like it has been and two new drivers are emerging as the future of Formula 1. There is a chance the United States will loose their Grand Prix but then again, maybe not. Time will tell! At least, I will still be able to travel to Montreal for the Canadian Grand Prix!
Shadow1Great shot indeed! Would have loved to have gone for the ride during the demo! I am sure it would have been quite interesting from the inside! Cheers!
Shadow1Excellent point.
Do they mention when the A380s are planned to begin operations?
An article I read on Yahoo Biz this morning at six AM mentioned Kingfisher’s A380s were to be delivered sometime in 2010. Which would mean that, by that time, Kingfisher would be able to fly international routes!
Doesn’t this seem like a big gamble for a LCC that, at this point, only has a fleet with just two jets operating? (Please correct me if I am wrong on the aount of aircraft in service!) With such a large market opening up, I would imagine there will be an enormous amount of competition to become the leading LCC in India. Indigo Airlines (Never heard of them until today!) seems to be ready to earn a good chunk of the prize and I am sure that others will as well. Cheers!
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