A small runway at LHR seems to be a great idea. Let’s see it happen first though!
By the way – what is the deal with the existing short runway at LHR? It seems to hardly ever be used.
An ERJ-145 / A320-family fleet seems good to me in terms of cost savings.
They’re a good airline and it will be a shame to see those Fokkers go. I used to fly Viscounts and DC-9’s a lot with BMI and enjoyed the smaller aircraft. The F100 was in that category.
Steve, why is Owen a liability? He single handedly rescued England last Wednesday against the Slovaks.
Steve, why is Owen a liability? He single handedly rescued England last Wednesday against the Slovaks.
The director of MI5 said last night it was a case of “when, not if” a major Western city would be attacked by a CBRN weapon.
The director of MI5 said last night it was a case of “when, not if” a major Western city would be attacked by a CBRN weapon.
2nd biggest? I thought they were a distand 3rd after GE and PW?
I’ll have a go :
Bermuda II is a bilateral treaty between the UK and the USA. It sets out the framework for commercial flights between these countries.
One of the points is that transatlantic flights ex-Heathrow may be served by only 4 airlines – 2 from the UK and 2 from the USA (BA, Virgin, American and United at present, although TWA and Pan Am previously represented the US).
Bermuda II also has a clause over the number of destinations which can be served from Heathrow. It’s not a huge number, so generally if someone like BA wants to add an American destination they either have to drop an existing one or transfer to Gatwick.
The main sticking point for BMI is that the UK already has 2 airlines, so there can’t be a 3rd, at least from Heathrow. Hence BMI started transatlantic flight from Manchester.
That’s why so many US airlines fly to Gatwick (US Airways, Delta, Continental, Northwest)
Some airlines (like Air India) have the right to fly LHR-USA and are exempted from the Treaty by special agreement, but this only accounts for a very small percentage of all traffic.
Technically I believe (though I’m not a lawyer) that Bermuda II is illegal, as the “2 airlines from the UK” bit should refer to “2 airlines from the EU” due to the Treaty of Rome and also the EU-wide open skies policy.
As a sidenote, there is constant talk of tearing the Treaty up in favour of open skies, but there seems to be a beurocratic turf war preventing this (the EU wants to handle negotiations, but so does the UK).
Someone in the business could probably sum it up more succintly, but hopefully I got the basics in there.
Exactly, if they don’t use the slots there is a risk of losing them.
I’m not saying that such flights can’t make a return for BMI though.
Originally posted by pierrepjc
Did they buy them, or were they given them for free???;)
The article referred to “solid margins” so presumably Boeing stands to make a profit. Therefore, the aircraft were not especially discounted.
Not really – I think BA would genuinely like more UK regional flights into LHR, if only for the feeder value.
But all businesses will try to maximise the return from any limiting factor. Slots in this case are the limiting factor, so £ return per slot is an important indicator for BA. You just can’t make as much money flying to Jersey or Leeds as you can by flying to New York or Delhi.
As for BMI, I’m sure they’d love some long hauls from LHR but they have struggled to obtain the necessary permissions, especially transatlantic where the Bermuda II treaty stands in their way.
Alastair, it’s a pleasure to meet a decent Scot!
Alastair, it’s a pleasure to meet a decent Scot!
At least you’re not sunburnt!
It is very embarrassing to have peely skin in a client meeting. I felt…dirty. My fiancee is an Aussie and finds it all very funny – it wasn’t even hot according to her.
At least you’re not sunburnt!
It is very embarrassing to have peely skin in a client meeting. I felt…dirty. My fiancee is an Aussie and finds it all very funny – it wasn’t even hot according to her.