My thoughts exactly. I just read it and wondered who would spending/wasting their time and money on this today.
I particularly like the biographies of those that were there such as Don Charlwoods No Moon Tonight, all Jack Curries books and Geoff Wellums First Light among many others. I would add to the list and highly reccomend Tony Spooners In Full Flight. It his his story form training through to flying Wellingtons on anti shipping patrols off Malta. Fascinating from start to finish. His exploits made him highly regarded by the navy for his work with them. If you haven’t read it then seek out a copy. You won’t be dissapointed.
Brave men, every single one of them.
But let’s remember the reality, not the fiction.
Gibson wasn’t the wonderfully nice guy portrayed by Richard Todd.
Agree totally, very brave, all of them. However, as well as Gibson not being a nice guy (pun not intended), our club found Ken Brown to be, well, less than charitable is perhaps the nicest way to put it.
Geoff Rice lived locally and worked with a friends dad when we were in school. I never met him but my friend always spoke highly of him.
Anyway, three anniversaies for me to remember. Dams raid, Memphis Belle and me and Mrs. Sgt, Austins wedding. I have no excuse to forget our anniversary and she knows it.
I visited back in the ’90s to see the BoB operations room which is underground there. Our club had a private tour before parts of it were opened to the public. It was run by a chap called Chris Wren. I’m not sure if it’s still open or whether you can get access to it now. If you can get to see it it is well worth a look. I have no idea what the rest of the base or the married quarters is like. I recall that the main thing going on was vehicle servicing and repairs but I think that was about to stop and be carried out elsewhere, though I can’t be certain as it was a while back now.
I had a friend who was a tool maker on the TSR 2 project. When it was cancelled everything connected to production had to be destroyed. Not everything could be found and accounted for so he spent the best part of a year recreating tools and jigs so that they could be officially destroyed. He made it, it was taken away immediately and destroyed! All this was done to save money on the project rather than waste it!! I will never understand government accountants.
It could be that he had a particular skill to help with the documents i.e experience in printing, artist etc. which enabled them to be produced a bit quicker.
Alright then, I’ll ask – How do you milk a mouse?:D
Hi smiler558
My sincere appologies for getting your name wrong. Thanks for clarifying the cost and thanks for a very interesting and informative lecture (loved the ‘he’s going to be an engineer cartoon’).
As I said on an earlier thread, whatever yout feelings on the Vulcan it is well worth going along to hear this lecture.
No worries bubbles, It’s difficult to know what to believe but he seemed a reliable source. He said the charge for a display was £8000 so again our sources differ. He also said that they would have to start paying landing fees as it was now a civilian aircraft and the MOD was in effect subsidising it. This was likely to be at around £1000 a time, so yet more money to find. Anyone else heard this?
It would help if you got your figures correct for a start, £29,000 is not quite right.
I have no wish to quibble over it but £29000 is exactly what the chief engineer David Stone said in his lecture last November. Perhaps he got it wrong or maybe he didn’t know what he was talking about. I went to the lecture as a Vulcan supporter and I have quoted what he said as costs were being dicussed.
As for your other point -I was under the impression that the displays carried out by the Vulcan are subsidised from the fund so that smaller venues are able to have the aircraft i.e spreading the educational element not just attending the venues that can afford it!
You are correct David. I attended a lecture given by David Stone, chief engineer, last November (there’s a thread on it if anyone wants to do a search). He said the cost of doing a display was close to £29000 but they charge £8000, still quite a fee for a small show to find.
Sorry, wasn’t concentrating. I should have put my doubts next to the Oxford, not the Tempest. Doh!!
Hi David
RR 715 Airspeed Oxford
PR 715 Hawker Tempest Mark 2 ?? not 100% certain but this serial would fall in the range issued to the Tempest, just not sure if it was issued. I will try to check it out later when I can get to my references (unless someone can say for sure).
dangerousdave – those are the horrid details that I remember but didn’t like to write. Police were asking toy and model shops about boys that had nicked airfix paint and batteries – they knew what they were going to do, they planned it.
dangerousdave – those are the horrid details that I remember but didn’t like to write. Police were asking toy and model shops about boys that had nicked airfix paint and batteries – they knew what they were going to do, they planned it.