Hi
might it have been an early lancastrian ?
first canadian ‘lancastrian’ was in I think in 1943
cheers J
What would I give to see one of these restored to flight 😮
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think the first one to fly will be this side of the pond
when FHC offers to anyone $50,000 for a full set a/c drawings and $20,000 for a full set engine drawings, they must be serious about it.
cheers
jerry
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There is/was another letter in the PRO/NA stating whirlwinds were not to be used in the BoB because of the 20mm cannon they were the only aircraft capable of attacking armoured vehicles in the event of invasion
I think in the Orb ? it mentions the Sqn low flying exercises
cheers
jerry
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Think i have copies of those three crash reports P6984 is a big report, impression i get is they recovered a lot but the site is under a car park
cant remember P7008 details at the moment, will try to look soon
cheers J
PS
I just found the three crash reports, no photos in them, if you want scans i can send them the weekend, pm me your e mail again 🙂
forest of dean was P7044, like P7008 and P7118 these were dug by a group
J
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info was on L6845 was i think in this issue
http://www.aviationarchaeology.org.uk/aviation-archaeologist-magazine?srs=Volume%2520No.4&issue=4
cheers J
I know that feeling. But from spending too much time at Kew, I know there would be good photographic coverage of many of these mishaps, let alone the usual RAFM, FAAM etc archives for other photos and log books etc.
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Sadly in the 80’s i found many photos to be ‘missing’ photos, and files wih nothing inside them.
curiously when visiting a few years ago, these files seemed not to exist anymore ?
seems somehow i copied down lots of numbers wrongly in the 80’s, even wrong titles …. hmmm …
I only found the well now whirlwind post crash photos taken of 7103 ? or was it 7013? ( i just woke up ) in a hangar
I saw an old thread on ‘raf commands’ with another whirlwind but never managed to find out the reference.
good luck
cheers J
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Great find 🙂
My thoughts RAFM, after being scanned.
It is then potentialy available to researchers worldwide.
at a local record office probably not so, and possibly prohibitive for non uk researchers.
I was allowed to copy a 67MU private diary many years ago, it was a wealth of info on codes.
but it had a few serials that were supposedly not issued, or of a wrong a/c type, and was only a list of those a/c seen by the writer
cheers
jerry
Do any photos exist of the other chalked on nose art as it would be very interesting to see.
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I will try to get to my storage stuff, if/when I do, I will PM you, but it could be a while before I can.
cheers
jerry
How do you know they were chalked on? Every reference I’ve ever seen refers to Bob Beaumont’s nose artwork as paintings and they look too well defined to be chalk. Willing to be proved wrong though.
There is picture in Robert Bowater’s book of a 263 Whirlwind with a ‘Golden Lion’ on its nose, a reference to the squadron local in Weymouth.
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I could be wrong
the info was in a 70’s ish letter from a Sqn clerk, that responded to a request for whirlwind info.
cheers
jerry
Is the implicit suggestion that they had time to paint a squadron insignia but not change the codes? I rather doubt it.
Hi Graham
Just to clear up these are chalked on drawings
I must admitt I originally thought they were painted on to 🙂
cheers
jerry
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It is a 263Sqn a/c, The dispersal identifies it as being at warmwell.
I have in my notes as P7113, but I have seen other serials mentioned.
As to nose art there is also a ‘hitler in a gallows’ drawing, amongst others.
Years ago I initially thought it was ‘condor’ but now know different
Naill maybe along and I am sure he is able to tell the stories of the chalked on characters, i think i heatd it from him first
As to bellows presentation a/c all 263Sqn aircraft dropped the bellows individual naming after a request from the fellowship, so any aircraft photo with just ‘bellows’ is taken after july 1942
previously as to presentation a/c there were :-
bellows argentina I to XII
bellows uruguay I to IV
fellowship of the bellows columbia
Condor I & II
O banderante
from memory the only exception is that two 137Sqn a/c retained their full bellows presentation names, as it seems they were never told of the order to change.
my notes are in storage, all info in them is from pro/na, logs, photos etc … I researched since 1970
cheers
jerry
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link to
P-400 serial history
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p39_5.html
P-322 serial history http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p38_7.html
cheers
jerry
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might it be a forces joke
CRB = career review board ?
the spitfire to me does seem to be a mix of spare bits
cheer
jerry
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Seems possible he was watching a video
Jerry
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I know many maybe legally justified but ….
566 people killed by us police to date
Jerry