I find it laughable.
Commuting by train already costs double and sometimes triple what it costs me to commute by car between Fife and Edinburgh. That’s why I take the car. £15 each per head (I car share) covers all costs.

Sandy,
Hope that’s the weekly/monthly and not the daily cost as otherwise it must be a Bugatti Veyron you are driving and if so may I car share too at least just once?:D

You are so right about the rubbish that gets in the way of anything productive ie railway improvements, but then in unionised France they seem to manage and in a lesser unionised Switzerland manage even better.

When are we meeting for a chin wag – more to the point? – beer – coffee whatever your poison.:cool:

For the same reasons, Detroit, Japan, and even our own aero industry

For the same reasons, Detroit, Japan, and even our own aero industry stay with ICE.

Even on this forum I have had certain re-buff when I talked of the research going on at Culham on Hydrogen Cell Mach 8 (LHR- SYD 4 hrs). This was in relation to my dissertation on the Accounting Standards relating to R,D and I.P.

In the main its primarily cost of R&D, the willingness/unwillingness to do it and the super cool lazy alternative – lets stay with the ICE and make money. May not have anything or anywhere to spend it on/at.

Do you mean Hydrogen cell ?

Do you mean Hydrogen cell ?

Some great work going on down in Culham by ex HOTOL guys and gals.

Edinburgh boffins knock it saying wave power is better – academic tosh

Planning what’s that – it’s all in the nightclub with Red Bull

Planning what’s that – it’s all in the nightclub with Red Bull until 4 am and what’s work – oh the place that save’s me saying that I really am a lazy good for nothing layabout and am spared signing on at the Job Centre. I go to work late after the nightclub on a high, ‘crash’ at mid-day unless I have Red Bull injected into me, and talk about my social, sex or what I call a life with my friends; honestly it beats real work or using Facebook which I do anyway while at work on my Iphone or similar. Up everyone who thinks differently to me I am the youth of today (from good or bad homes) :mad:- sorry I do have some great friends’ kids and apologies to you all of you that don’t fit this horrible stereotype. Thank goodness for small mercies😀

Mods consider placing this thread under “The much awaited American Airlines order”

Mods please consider placing this thread under “The much awaited American Airlines order”.

Apologies I have answered your question once I spotted it

Apologies I have answered your question once I spotted it.
Additional Thinking selfishly for one moment although I gladly get on BA, EDI to LHR, I haven’t that same economic (time and money) flexibility from Edinburgh to Manchester or Birmingham unless I go via LHR.

Okay in answer to the points –

Hi Lance
Wind Farms as the Dutch built windmills where Jo Herr Bloggs could do some maintenance themselves may be a solution for outlying islands with more wind than no wind, along with some bio fuel (self cultivation) generators/tractors, vehicles, modern solar panels, heat pumps, etc
Scattering wind farms all over the mainland and its shoreline is madness as the wind hitting them can be in some cases so low to make them no more than very expensive eyesores.

Filling the fuel tanks of cars, vans and HGVs – I shall for once apportion blame on Detroit who for decades have known about possible alternative fuel/hybrid combos but for avoiding re-engineering the mass selling of the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) models continued undeterred encouraging Japan as well.
If we crack Nuke power and make electricity available in Petrol like stations or even at meter-able charging points at home/work hybrids may be a solution.
Bio fuels like rape seed are used in some French buses and to my knowledge can go safely into diesel engines with little or no mods. – But bio fuel causes another argument – land should it be over cultivated and if so should it be GM free crops or what?

Tidal energy will be viable in a few locations – possibly, but accurate and honest forecasting and maintenance costing must be done based on accurate forward tidal forecasts. We also have not as yet fully established how this may affect marine life and sea based mammals.

If the Moon stops going round the earth then this discussion will have long ended. You and I would have knocked hard at St Peter’s door but even he may be a gonner.:D

We certainly have to vastly slow down the rate at which we are taking the black gold out and maybe even contributing to reducing the essential natural lubrication between tectonic plates – hence possibly the increase in Tsunamis and volcanic eruptions. We certainly aren’t giving the carbon conversion cycle time to work safely.

We are also adding a heavy dependence on consumer goods and food produced in fast developing nations abroad and patting ourselves on the back and jumping for joy saying ‘Fair Trade’, ‘Fair Trade’,while turning a blind eye to the pollution these fast growing nations are causing by over using fossil fuels in their drive to supply our needs. ‘Fair Trade’ my a.se.:D It’s supermarket and women’s journal stuff.

That’s where sadly a lot of the world is heading

That’s where sadly a lot of the world is heading, titilation, short term thrills gained and enjoyed at the expense of the older generations, figures in authority, etc.

Personal privacy, a great bastion of an island race like Britain – what’s that?:(