In theory you don’t but since some airport areas make the security nervous …

In theory you don’t but since some airport areas make the security nervous if spotters are close to perimeter fences which naturally they will be. Permits mean that the bona fide spotters can rest assured they will not be in conflict with any authority (unless they breach rules) and will not be blamed by anyone if some miscreants take anti social liberties.

Bring back recognised viewing spots with safety enhancements to appease the security services and everyone will be happy.

If you ain’t doing anything wrong ID cards/permits aren’t a problem and can be time saving.

The apology was to you not to any title you may carry

The apology was to you not to any title you may carry/carried.;)

I stand corrected about the second point you make. Apologies to anyone who takes offence about my tongue in cheek quipe.

At least crew and civillians in the area are safe

At least crew and civillians in the area are safe.:)

Pity about the Puma though – one less at least until they decide if it can be fixed or become scrap.

Isn’t Ingliston public space unless new restrictions have been added ?

Isn’t Ingliston public space unless new restrictions have been added ?

Many airports and their surrounding neighbourhood weren’t planned during a terrorist inflicted world.

The Royal Highland Show ground at Ingliston and many of the businesses around permit public visibility of many areas of the airport and it would be difficult to prevent ‘joe public’ from being there.

It is what ‘joe public’ does when they are there that matters or does not matter. You probably were doing nothing to cause anyone least of all Lothian and Borders Police any anxiety.:cool: Your vehicle plate would identify you as well. LBP are a good force and certainly try to know their friends from their foes.

Two LHR runways have a motorway the hard shoulder on which any vehicle with a rocket launcher wielding terrorist maniac could take anything out on take off or landing. I guess they could build a ‘pseudo’ tunnel over that stretch of M25 (including fake or real grass roof and surrounds) and its slip roads but cost and environmentalists (Yuk) prohibit:mad:

Take 6/24 at EDI, and consider the union of two motorways and the footbridge over them and the A8, well need I say more. Improved runway to avoid severe crosswinds on 12/30 now hardly used but 6/24 at Ratho end is vulnerable – YES.

I often stand on the footbridge at Ratho station and anyone checking on me would not find my behaviour abnormal apart from when my cousin flys in as a First Officer previously with Norwegian now with SAS I try to wave a huge bright yellow tee shirt if the taxi and turn is the usual for 6/24.

They can improve the nose on furture Boeing composites

They can improve the nose on furture Boeing composites. Let’s see it delivered to customers (who can test it to destruction) before we worry about ‘nose jobs’.

Sure Boeing can make cosmetic changes in the future to future versions or newer models.

I like it – a hole for a creep to crawl through

But did any one notice that the head of state for India was due in to Edinburgh on that day

I like it – a hole for a creep to crawl through.:D
When I see the country the head of state represents, tidy up its domestic act and develop its own society and infrastructure before taking over international businesses (UK included):mad: and preaching to the world about business techniques then a red carpet can be provided. Until then maybe a hole it must be as an exit from the airport.:rolleyes:

Crowds celebrate 787’s debut landing in Asia

Boeing and ANA Begin 787 Service Readiness Validation in Japan

Crowds celebrate 787’s debut landing in Asia
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1825

“The 787 debuted in Asia yesterday (03 June 2011) with a landing at Haneda Airport in Tokyo at 6:21 a.m. (local time)……
….Boeing plans to deliver the first 787 to ANA in the August to September timeframe.”

This is insane ….

Hi
This is extremely distasteful for the press to blame spotters, as genuine spotters/photographers are not going to spoil it for themselves or for other enthusiasts by doing something so stupid.:mad:
I have only just logged on and seen your thread.
I feel that spotters and enthusiasts for payment of a nominal fee should be given a photo ID card valid for a year on production of adequate evidence of their domicile status. In return they should be advised of where best to spot from and as someone has said they can be invaluable in seeing many things that can help an airport maintain safety.:cool:Any others who do stupid things to disrupt an airport be dealt with by the authorities swiftly.
Holding up a busy airport is not amusing for anyone involved in the delay, but the idiots that did it must have known what they were doing and should be punished when caught.:mad: