Remains of 104 of the 228 people killed have arrived in France

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13792195

“Remains of 104 of the 228 people killed when an Air France jet crashed into the Atlantic in 2009, leaving no survivors, have arrived in France.

A ship carrying three containers of wreckage and a fourth bearing human remains from the ocean bed docked in the south-western port of Bayonne.

The harbour was closed off by the authorities out of respect for bereaved families and friends.”

That leaves just over the half the remains of those who died still unaccounted for and quite a lot of wreckage missing.

In fact MO’L is suggesting every passenger have a optimum weight dress code

This is the new stewards uniform, less material means cost saving, as a passenger if you want them to cover up you have to pay extra

In fact MO’L is suggesting every passenger have an optimum weight dress code, in other words ideally fly wearing [a] underpants only for males, [b] bra and panties/thongs only for females and either [a] or [b] or a fig/clover leaf for those unsure of their gender.

In return the passenger can fly for 50p with an option to purchase suitable additional clothing on disembarking from Ryanair at 500% mark up. Well if supermarkets can do 4-500% mark up why not Ryanair?

That way MO’L can put in a few extra standing seats.

MO’L is paying the ‘Drag queenie’ on US Airways a huge premium to help with the marketing promotion at RyanAir. Dressed in RyanAir colurs of course.This includes unlimited free flights while wearing the ‘drag’ outfits.

I guess a Borat Mankini in lurid green may also be acceptable by US Airways.

Who is old enough to remember the title of a film called “Its a Mad Mad Mad Mad World” – this sums up most of the politically correct nonsense happening just now.

Not sure if BEA have made that conclusive a remark as yet but …

Have they said if there was any airframe break-up before impact?

Not sure if BEA have made that conclusive a remark as yet but … there are parts of the wreckage that have not been found along with approximately half the human remains. Salvage work now abandoned indefinitely.
Anything is possible to come out of the BEA investigation and we must wait for the Interim Report in a few weeks followed by an approximate 2 years wait for the final report if on schedule.

Hi benhongh

Sound sarcastic if you like it does not matter. I am used to heated brainstorming sessions in most of my working life and usually the team stayed professional and friends (unlike many politicians)

I have used it effectively and that is all that matters. It isn’t being proposed for military aircraft flying at supersonic speeds with massive after burn accelerations. It is being suggested as an absolute fail safe for a civil airliner in a crisis.

Please see my posts with diagrams 11th June 2011, 23:48 and 12th June 2011, 01:15 just preceding your post of 12th June 2011, 06:26

In my description of the pics in these two posts I have dealt with situations of the plumb line collapsing if the angle exceeds 90 degrees BUT this is very unlikely (China Airlines Boeing 747 which looped the loop a few times yet survived) and anyway if it did the plumb line would simply revert to pointing to the centre of the earth as soon as the angle is below 90 degrees.

Try it for yourself either for real in a cockpit (a piece of thread, a small key and some blu tac will not breach security) or simply build a little model ( a clear plastic fizzy drinks bottle, cut the bottom off, push a pin or needle through the side and attach a piece of short luminous fishing line on the end of which is a small weight. The string and nut should be inside the clear plastic bottle). Unless you propose that the civil airliner in a crisis will continue to accelerate the plumb line (in which case it’s a ‘gonner’) will recover very quickly in your model if you simply execute gentle manoeuvres (which is all a captain in full control independent of fly by wire of a stricken airliner will try to do to save his aircraft)

I used a plumb line in a tandem 2 seater trainer Chipmunk (tail wheeler) which had a carb. that permitted minimal aerobatic flying including inverted flying for short periods. The plumb line simply recovered after the instructor came out of inverted flying as a demo.

I found it a great help in tail wheel aircraft where one used to glance out over the side of the cockpit to gauge exact height above terra firma when into last few seconds of touching the ground with main undercarriage to avoid snapping/damaging the tail wheel.

The absolute fact is that the plumb always points to the centre of the earth if there is no massive acceleration involved and any gentle change of velocity (causing minimal acceleration) will not matter as the plumb line will shift in academic terms slightly but not technically of significance as it would still be pointing to the centre of the earth give or take a few degrees. In a stricken airliner in crisis these few degrees can be worried about once land is in sight and ground ATC/radar control takes fuller control.

Extremely sad news

Extremely sad news.

Condolences to those bereaved and to those lost may you RIP.

Extremely sad news

Extremely sad news, condolences to the bereaved and may those departed RIP.

And the Indian railways were streaks ahead of any LCC in India

And the Indian railways were streaks ahead of any LCC in India just take a peek at these images http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=indian+commuters+on+trains&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=477

I’d say a ‘moving sculpture’ of Indian railway commuters adorning trains. Sure beats washing the trains down on the outside, as the commuters garments will clean the carriages and engine.

In comparison what’s one, two or a ‘bakers dozen’ LCC passengers standing, maybe even on their heads, while the aircraft is in flight including take off and landing. All part of a busy day.