Baldrick!!!! I thought you said you’d lost the recipe for that custard!?!
and in a semi-sobern mood…
my very best wishes for a merry Christmas and a happy, healthy, properous new year! (apparently we can’t publicly speak these words at ‘home’)
and if you celebrate any other ‘major’ celebration at this time of year, please accept my very best wishes for a happy and prosperous new year. *(I just can’t quite spell the applicable one at this moment)
James
Current air defence eguipment is Javelin (manPAD – shoulder or multiple mount) – replaced Blowpipe, and ADATS in addition to the GDF 005 twin 35mm.
The Navy utilizes the SM-2 (same as the USN)
… As a matter of fact Canada has a few laying around………….
Not quite laying around… the CF Hornet fleet is continually on a rotating upgrade program (yes there are some that are not ‘on active service’). However, even if the RAAF were to perhaps be interesting the the CF-188s (and IF they were ‘disposable’) the 188s are being/have been upgraded to different standards than those currently operated by the RAAF.
As far as I’ve heard, the RAAF A/B Hornets were upgraded to C/D equivalent some time ago, while some of our ‘legacy’ Hornets are almost identical in configuration to the form in which they were delivered some 20 years ago. (as an aside, the CF 2006 ‘Hornet Demo’ aircraft was one such ‘legacy bird’)
JJ
A comment not a complaint…
First of all, hats off to SOC for ‘taking care of business’.
It’s become more obviously lately that some members don’t read/understand/abide by the Forum rules. This is a truly international forum to which we all (I hope) come to learn and share – this is not a bar-room pi$$ing match.
I too have had moments when I’ve sorely wished I’d never joined… however I’ve managed to bite my tongue and bide my time, knowing that what has bothered me has been simply posted by the rude/ignorant/un-informed (check all that apply).
Some of the comments I’ve read here (in general) really do make me sick to think that I share the title ‘aviation enthusiast’ with some of these people. Fortunately there are a great deal more individuals worldwide who do not go through life with blinders on and can share and contribute to a multi-facetted discussion without resorting to petty name calling and/or biased opinions.
A recent print article back here in the “North of the 49th” made a stinging comment regarding the world of email and online forums… in particular the ‘immediacy’ and ‘anonymity’ of the medium. We should all take a couple moments longer when drafting out replies and responses – simply because an innocent word choice can be immediately read and contrued in the wrong (and potentially offensive) manner.
As for the rest, yes there is a group – and not necessarily of any particular nationality – who would rather be arguementative and beligerent. The only thing I wish there is that they would appoach the forum with an open mind and be willing to accept other information and other people’s opinions. To the administrators, I say thank you for your work in weeding those out. As the old adage goes ‘If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all’ – and this still rings true in this electronic (and in some cases anonymous) age.
Otherwise, I say to SOC, Arthur, Frank, Harry and the rest… thank you and keep up the good work. As I’ve said, I hope we are all here to learn and share and debate when debate is due – but not argue and name-call simply because we can or feel like it. The biggest recommendation I could make to the Web-master and the powers-that-be would be to make certain elements of the user profile mandatory and thus lose the ‘anonymity factor’ that so many of the ‘trolls’ and ‘flamers’ hide behind.
‘Level’… This thread and the lead photo happens to be the first I’ve seen your material, and it is indeed a shame to see you leave.
‘SOC’ thank you again for this opportunity to get something off my chest and share it with anyone who wishes to read it.
James
(un-biased and openly, proudly Canadian)
Only info I’ve seen related is here…
http://www.xdh.ca/DHC_Aircraft/DHC-7/DHC-2_Production/dhc-2_production.html
The entry for #135 is rather sparse, containing only the original owner and delivery date:
Air Carrier Service 27/07/1951
Magister….
Hi Milton,
Best ones of the Magister I’ve been able to find.
OR… drop me a PM – I can always pass along the Vector files I created for my profiles.
James
Certainly appears to have a ‘leg-up’ on other vendors of Great War relics…
Sorry :rolleyes:
Balkan History…in brief
First off no one should feel stupid for not knowing whats going on here,elp mentioned hes been reading on the subject for the last 3 months,and only knows 1% of the situation.So could forum members from this region give both a historical and current background to this conflict and all groups involved.I believe problem with US/NATO/UN policy is they wont admit they dont know whats going on,so they hold to a reactionary type of responce.Ive heard ethnic groups have ties to surrounding countries,so this could develop into a really bad situation.To Bad Toms not around,Im sure he could make a thorough explanation of all this.One misconception I believe people have is that they think the moslems are descended from a nomadic peoples.If youve read about the battle of lepanto,youd see that the ottoman turks were a huge power at that time and nearly took complete control of the medeteranian in 1500s.
For an interesting and informative look at some of the sources of conflict in the Balkans, look for the following book:
‘Balkan Ghosts: A Journey Through History’
by Robert D Kaplan ISBN 0679749810
When I finished reading it the first time, I had to turn around and read it again. Its not written like a history text book – instead more like a travelogue – as the author recounts his travels from Slovenia, through Croatia, Albania, Madedonia, Bulgaria and on through Serbia, and Romania. It touches on the ethnic and religious issues and their generations-old role in the make up of the Balkans we know today. One of the very best historic writings I’ve read in a long time.
Just a casual observation here, but I think the whole subject of the thead has been hi-jacked. This thread was obviously intended as a memorial to those caught up in the events of DE 07 41 – 65 years ago!.
Can’t ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYMORE recognize and acknowledge historically significant events without someone else slamming them. This is not about Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq or Afghanistan or wherever else you want to name. Look at the significance of the day…. and the fact that the events of that day changed the world (YES, the world!).
The bulls#*t I keep seeing thrown around regarding 20th Century history – not just here, but also in the ‘real’ world – makes me sick! Nation bashing simply because it is the ‘in’ thing to do. Come on people!
As I was taught many many years ago (and obviously some have never learned) ‘If you can’t say anything nice, Don’t say anything at all!’
Ok, first time I spotted this thread…
Thanks Don for finding and pointing this out.
and now for a local comment…. Ho Ho Ho….
Regardless of what anyone else may think about it, this is one thing that still makes children look to the skies and wonder. The fact that the Canadian Forces have continued to embrace the season and take and ‘active role’ in the ‘Season’ makes me even more proud to be a Canadian.
I’ve managed to convert my 4 year old nephew to the passion for anything that flies – and for the last month he’s been going ‘Santa crazy’ – so just imagine how crazy he will be when I throw the Hornets at him!
Sure – from an ‘adult’ point of view – it may seem ‘hokey’, but come on gang, it’s really all about the kids, and we’ve all been there. PR machine or not, the fact that the Forces can get into the seasonal swing of things for the sake of our younger generations – even given our currently strained operational situation – speaks volumes!
Merry Christmas to All, and to All a Good Night…. from the land of the North (magnetic) Pole!
(P.S.) …. still no snow on the ground where I am – thankfully Santa invested in V-STOL and got rid of those skis.
I notice that the Wiki article makes reference to the PakAF T-37s – and while they are being withdrawn from service – I can’t imagine that the aircraft have too much of a useful life left in them and certainly not much of a light attack capability.
I’ll second the A-37 idea… anyone know if there are any OA-37s parked out at DM?
For anyone interested in some more of the historical background, internal (US) conspiracies, after-effects, finger pointing and navel gazing related to The Pearl attack, I can highly recommend the following…
Infamy, by John Toland (ISBN 0-245-07664-4)
Not a work of fiction, but rather a careful investigation and recount of the investigations and reports following DE 07 41. It will make you shake your head.
JJ
relic…
Ro.37 bis…?
Correcting myself…
Hiroshima was a major Naval city (basing/industry) if I recall correctly, and again IIRC, Osaka was to be the target on the 9th but target visibility forced the alternate of Nagasaki.
JJ
Kokura Arsenal – in Kitakyushu – was the primary taget for ‘Fat Man’ on August 9.
http://www.mbe.doe.gov/me70/manhattan/nagasaki.htm