The Vietnamese did fire thousands of S-75s during the war with America, around 5800 or so – how many US aircraft did it actually knock down? Bear in mind most US aircraft were not flying at Mach 3 or at 90,000 ft (more likely a bomb laden F-105 at 600 kts). During the course of the war S-75s had a success rate reduced to around 1% or less, US ECM technology had basically neutralised the GUIDELINE as a threat to normal combat aircraft (we won’t even talk about the “insane” ECM kit on SR-71s).

It’s easy to come to such conclusions when you miss all important details. First you forgot that more than 50% of the launches were salvo of 2 rockets and ~7% with 3, to increase the chance to destroy the target.
Flying at low altitudes and using ECM lead to the 10-12 rockets/aircraft ratio, but may i ask you which AA system of the same time-frame will have better results? And where this 1% figure came from? So please provide some figures to back up this ridiculous claim.

190 aircraft downed by SAMs acording to most US sources.

And reported more than 8000 rocket launches, when all missiles delivered to Vietnam was little more than 7600, and ~6800 were used.

Maybe the video that Sferrin refer to is this:http://rutube.ru/tracks/309307.html?v=4da147c156d2cfa238c4710347bb4a95
It’s a must watch!!!

They approach western shores and then whine because we send up fighters to intercept? Don’t like it then don’t come so close.

Exactly the answer i expected from you.I think that you even didn’t try to understand what he is trying to say. It’s just another opportunity to bash the evil commies.
Anyone can fly in international airspace. There is no problems with the Russians flying wherever they want to, and no problems with NATO or USA pilots intercepting them. But while everyone’s in international airspace and not breaching any laws pilots should behave with professionalism.

WTH are Orions and Gulfstreams going to do even if they let them in.

Are you serious? So why USA have problems with letting Tu-142 overfly a carrier?

I think we’d all like to see the evidence, maybe no footage exists of the incidents because they never happened though…

Yeah, the job of the pilots is to always have videocameras with them. Right….

Also, there is a photo of a 3M tanker carrying two 6,500 ltr drop tanks

That picture?

Jon James did you missed the fact that your copy/paste figures are for 9 years of war against organized enemy supported by USA, China and many Arab countries?

Now explain how a RF or IR missile will obtain a lock at BVR distances when they cannot do so at “pilot’s eyeball” distances?

And there is no word what distance that is. Is it 500m or 10km? And does F-15 use something like OLS-27?

Has anybody saw what picture KNAAPO use for their PAC FA section?
http://www.knaapo.ru/eng/index.wbp