So you know the source and did the claim despite that.
I did mention that records and did compare that with the operational values.
They did work hard for the records and did get the honor related to that.
Claim what?I just repeat what was said by the people that worked on the planes and was involved in development.And i ask you again for the hole sentence.”as result….”.Result to what?When you pick just certain word you can easily get the result you want.And let me quote again someone from OKB MiG:
“The speed of over Mach 3 can be reached without causing a damage to the aircraft and there is even no need for inspection after such flights.”
Belyakov, OKB MIG chief designer.
*cough* modified engines *cough*
So?If you have something on mind,write it.Don’t be shy.
The MiG-25 had insufficient lateral control and the engine exceeded its RPM limit when going beyond Mach 3. Have you ever compared the prototype MiG-25 to the production model? What’s your conclusion? Lateral stability becomes a huge issue at Mach 3.
Any remedy to this problem would have compromised the performance of the aircraft in other parts of the flight envelope. There is simply no way of building a compromise between subsonic patrol duty and Mach 3 capability, especially not with the crude technologies employed on the MiG-25 initially.
The issue with insufficient lateral control is not that great.The plane becomes more “heavy”.At speeds greater than Mach 2.6, throttle control must be precise to keep the engines from overspeeding,and modified engines for E-166M showed that this issue can be solved.There was allready remedy for this high M number sickness and that even helped aerodynamicly.And btw where is the requirement for subsonic patrol?MiG-25 was never disigned with that in mind.You contradict yourself:
One can think whatever one likes to think about it, but fact is that the MiG-25 was not intended as Mach 3 cruise aircraft but as M2-2.5 cruise aircraft with dash capability.
And what crude technologies?I didn’t know that aerodynamic can be crude.
Nothing special.:)
Not confirmed by OKB MiG. “… as a result… did not go beyond the computational phase.”
What do you actualy mean?Put the hole sentence.Because according to the same bureau,the reason this “improved” MiG-25 was abandoned is that there was no factory that can produse the new engine and also there was higher priority towards new MiG-31.
The Ye-155M alias Ye-266M did set some ‘time to climb’ and ‘altitude’ records.
You mean that all-time record of 37650m ?Or that 37080m with 2 tons?For me “some” is just small word for such achievement.
The MiG-25 lacked the appropriate engines (overspeed and control issues) and the appropriate airframe to be an operational Mach 3 aircraft (red-lined at M2.8).
And Soviets were fully capable of making MiG-25 true M3 interceptor as E-155M showed.
The two most heavily defended cities in the world at that time, Hanoi and Haiphong had their air defenses obliterated.
So what about Moscow?
It’s always better to have echeloned defence.In addition to S-300,you can have Buk for mid to close range and Tor’s to deal with any weapon/attacker that managed to get this close.In this way you can not only intercep attacking aircraft,but also shoot missiles with deployed Buk’s.
I think the aircraft that Tupolev may have gotten canned was the improved T-4MS design?
The reason that is given is this.The first batch of 10-12 T-4 planes cannot be prodused in the Tushin factory and the goverment desided that the planes can be produced in Kazan.But at this time the factory makes Tu-22.Tupolev affraid to lose,pushed for the “simple” modification Tu-22M.The order for production never came…
T-4MS is different story.In short words.In the competition for long range supersonic bomber Sukhoi is declared the winner.Losers are Tupolev and Myasishchyev.But after short dispute the commision(led by Dementiev)decided that Sukhoi have enough burden with the development of the future T-10 and the bureau cannot accept the task.All project materials must go to Tupolev.Tupolev refused to accept them.After decision that all bureaus must develop UAV,Sukhoi developed Korshun and lost 2 years in doing so.
That one isn’t crap…
Maybe i used too strong word and didn’t explain well.I just find this 1000 figure too high.As an example in Vietnam USA counts more than 8000 SAM missile launches,Soviet data give 6806.And as you said Blackbird never(maybe) was against something more capable than S-75.You know how limited this system is against this type of targets and that most early modification are even uncapable of intercepting targets with speed of 2300+ km/h.
Advanced technology, rising costs, and a desire for Sukhoi to direct most of their attention to the T-10 project resulted in the cancellation of the T-4.
I think you are wrong on your second point.There is one nice book “Together with Sukhoi” by Oleg Samoylovich,who was one of the fathers of T-4.He describe the hole design and constuction of the 1-st prototype with detail.And there are given other reasons for closure of the project(in other books too).There was no factory capable of producing enough planes and the rise of Tu-22M project.Tupolev is blaimed for killing more than one project with his behind-the-curtain games.The end result is 1.3 billion rubles spend with plane “trown” in the garbage.
Rostislav Belyakov stated that the MiG-25 was conceived as the response to the Lockheed A-12
I also know that statement and maybe that is the case,but i think that there was allways anti-supersonic bomber task.That is said by ex-soviet pilot when i asked him what is the prime target desribed in the manual for PVO MiG-25’s.
Why not? The B-52 can be regarded as a successful nuclear bomber, but it never dropped an atomic or thermonuclear weapon in anger. You’d better be glad that the MiG-25 was never afforded the opportunity to prove itself in the PVO, because we all know what that would’ve probably meant!
It did have a long career as a reconnaissance and SEAD aircraft as well, and served India just fine as a recon jet for many years. OK, the interceptor had a number of flaws, but it did remain in service for quite some time. Iraq wasn’t able to really effectively use it in the 80s or 90s, but that was a far cry from the USSR.
I second that.Soviets didn’t lose anything with the cancelation of Valkyrie.They got good reconnaissance plane,good interceptor and good SEAD aircraft.Fact is that no other PVO MiG-25 user beside USSR can use the plane properly.
That is why there were 1000+ reported unsuccessful intercept attempts against SR-71.
The same crap like “Bagdad was the most heavily defended city”.
T-4 is not response to the Valkyrie.It was designed for anti-ship use.
And MiG-25 was designed to deal with M2+ bombers like the Valkyrie,no just against one reconnaissance aircraft.
“IMI 105 mm tungsten APFSDS-T M111 round is claimed to be superior to the US M735” what I had in mind.
A MBT will not be destroyed by a gun, but by the ammunation used by that.
I cannot know what you have in mind.
And you continiue to repeat yourself with empy statements.I was wrong to put it in that way,so…:no 105mm ammunition is able to penetrate the turret and front lobe of improved T-72 and T-80.
So you have the data at hand for quoted ones and penetration values achived, when fired by a L68 gun?!
Yes i have data.Some is from presentasions from the manufacturer,some is estimates calculated with proper formula.
Do you think the Leopard II was better? Whichever the case, the Gulf Wars demonstarted the big technological advantage of modern western armor. I don’t recall that we lost more than one tank in battle, if that. It was just amazing.
Modern western armor against “monkey” T-72 and obsolete T-54/55.
Spend more time to update your knowledge.Then you should known that even T-64BV is way superior to T-72M….
Radar range is nice and easy to understand, but I cannot imagine how a single pilot tries to adjust his radar manually while watching in a 3″ green&black scope
They use HUD…
Very useful for tracking and engaging a target, very clumsy for searching – but then again, the Flogger is no dogfighter and was NEVER ment to be one.
Here is more:
“Another MiG-23 evaluation finding in the U.S. and Israel reports was that the MiG-23 has a HUD that doubles as a radarscope, allowing the pilot to keep his eyes focused at infinity and work with his radar. It also allowed the Soviets to dispense with the radarscope on the MiG-23. This feature was carried over into the MiG-29, though in that aircraft a cathode ray tube (CRT) was carried on the upper right corner that can act as a radarscope as well. Western opinions about this “head-up radarscope” are mixed. The Israelis were impressed, but an American F-16 pilot criticizes it as “sticking a transparent map in front of the HUD” and not providing a three-dimensional presentation that will accurately cue a pilot’s eyes to look for a fighter as it appears in a particular direction.”
and at the same time fly the aircraft
Here is quote from martinez:
“The recommended mode of the SAU-23 is the “dempfir” mode, because it is improving the handling characteristics, enhances longitudinal and lateral stability at high angles of attack and bank, damping of induced periodic oscillations in the lateral control channel, making the artificial stick-feel system proportional to control surface deflections, so it decrease HELL a lot of pilot workload, which may be always very excessive during ACM. The “dempfir” mode should be ON during the whole flight.”
And because i’m too lazy,here is one good thread with LOTS of info:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,25.0.html
and one book:
http://depositfiles.com/files/2386199
if not closely guided by the ground
You allready answered your question.In several books is said that this is one of the main reasons why Flogger suffered more casualties than expected.
SFC is nothing static, it is a function of Mach number, thrust setting and altitude.
Here is data for R15B-300.The regime is with afterburner.
On the left SFC.Down is the Mach number.All other data is height in kilometers.
I think this is too complicated.
My idea is to use more mobile version of NEBO-SV radar with missiles that use terminal IR-guidance.Because the radar is in metric wave it is affected little from using “stealth” technology.So there will be no precise coordinates like in all other AD systems,but missile with modern IR homing will be able to pick the target before the guidance error will be fatal.The need for more mobility is just to give more chance to system to survive.
The other way is like Trident described(it’s Vega not Vera btw).But because the average error is greater(between 4-5km),still will be needed radar for mid-course update,but used for very short time.
No time to give you the details of related systems to hit something. That MBTs did field a special ammo (depleted uranium) to give the kinetic energy and related kill capability.
Don’t waste your time.I had enough info.Your post just show how little knowledge you have.Here is test conducted in Germany against T-72M1,wich is the so-called “monkey” version of T-72.Basically very little modified T-72A.
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/armania/armor/armour/t72/T72M1.html
And you are from Germany so i am amaized that you missed that.Because you should know that improved T-72,T-64 and T-80 cannot be penetrated from 105mm gun in the turret and front lobe.
But in daily live they were seperated strictly and seen as occupier mostly.
It depends for wich country you are talking about.In Bulgaria there were no Soviet bases.