How about Vikhr missile downing Tu-16.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=racYldYcpK8

They say that the submarine in this dry dock is Losharik.

It is known both as Project 210

Which is incorrect, the serial number used in the factory was 01210 and that lead to this wrong pr.210.

Why you want to make a simple thing so complicated. It’s not like P-1000 will dive to the target when it’s 50m away. Let’s say that 1km away, flying at 50m the missile will start to descend to the target. The angle of approach will be 4 degrees. Even if we reduce the lenght to 500m that will give 8 degrees and the missile will still not end as you say below the waterline. And this ranges are logical, as we speak about 1.2-1.4M heavy missile that cannot do 50g manoeuvre to the target.

Hmm, I guess it all depends on what sources you find credible. I’d feel more comfortable with the claims if there were other sources corroborating the claims. I doubt you’ll find too many Russian sources wanting to discuss in detail, the large losses of Migs to the Israeli AF.

Actually no. For example in almost every book/article about MiG-23ML/BN the war in 1982 is included. In some of the books that is done in great details with day to day chronicle of the events.

Also when you factor in that most western pilots got as many flight hours per month, as their eastern counterparts got per year, there’s no contest.

Yeah, as if you have any data to back up your claims. I am from former WP country and i can tell you that until the late 80’s the pilots flew regulary and participeted in many exercises.

Thanks for the feedback. So the NK32 has a better SFC than the NK25? The two engines have an afterburning thrust of about 25 000kg thrust, with the Nk321 pushing out about 14000kg dry. Does anyone know what the dry thrust of the NK25 is? Is it a a smaller or larger engine physically? Are they pretty much interchangeable seeing as it seems the NK32 is a derivative of the Nk25(?). If this is the case, what is the difference between the two from a design point of view?

Just two images for now to see how similar are the engines. More info tomorrow when i have more time.

On the Russian forums they talk about problems with engines and on-board systems. The pilot was unable to use braking parachutes. The guy that originaly posted the video wrote that there was damage to the plane. What they talk about in the beginning is airspeed. Starts from 390km/h, then raise to 400, 410 and then decrease. As alfakilo wrote there maybe have been blown tires. If the version of engine loss is true the pilot must have used emergency brakes, because of hydraulic pressure loss, and that can lead to blown tire.

Didn’t the Russians also assert that they’d slapped some RAM on a Mig-21 and get its RCS down to .25m^2? It sounds like they should just build new Fishbeds to this standard, with 5G avionics, as they’d obviously be cheaper and stealthier than the F-22, F-35, and T-50.

What is the issue here? MiG-21 is very small and simple plane, and with proper treatment and no pilons there will be no problem to reach that figure.

All his post from this thread in Military Photos are good. Starts from bottom of page 2.