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  • in reply to: Whitley recovery or salvage #1185566
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    Thanks Dave

    That’s a great early pic.

    Thanks for posting.

    Here’s an early Whitley taken at RAF Harwell pre war by my uncle during the visit Kings there.

    Dave

    in reply to: Whitley recovery or salvage #1185568
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    Thanks Cees

    We have a lot of parts to work with – now it just comes down to money and time! We have enough parts to rebuild the wings, but some of the panels will be new material – all these parts came from crashed aircraft so missing or badly damaged parts will have to be replaced.

    I don’t think we need Marks fuselage remnant as we have so much fuselage material anyway.

    Great news about N1521 – sounds very interesting – i’m sure some more parts will turn up. Please let me know what happens…

    Cheers

    Nice collection of Whitley bits Elliott,

    I agree, you cannot talk enough about Whitleys. Do you have enough wingbits to reconstruct one complete set? Would be nice if the RAFM bits and Mark Evans’ bits would be combined. But that again would be a pipe dream I think.

    If all goes well we have another look at the remains of N1521 during August this year. We already have approaval of the game keeper. The lake was recentely made deeper and the soil was dumped nearby. This will dry out and when sufficiently firm to walk over it we can further investigate, but we think that only small bits are down there. It was also said that a metal concentration was located in the lake but they seem to have dug around it, don’t know if we can do something there. I will keep you posted on that.

    Cheers

    Cees

    in reply to: Whitley recovery or salvage #1185578
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    Hi Dave

    I think the main reasons are the large number of Whitley high ground wrecks and the fact its not a Sptifire or Typhoon!

    Smaller aircraft were easier to salvage – steel tube could be cut up easily and wooden airframes burnt. I have seen plenty of Whitley remains with axe marks on them – especially at the longerons. They certainly did their best to salvage them.

    Wreckologists carried off most larger remains of the fighters in the 70s and 80s – the flying barn doors were generally bypassed.

    The RAFM have been very co-operative in allowing access and staff at Stafford have actually gone out of their way to help – i’m extremely grateful to them. I know they have also been very helpful to the Stirling Project.

    Elliott,
    It has probably been asked before but why do you think that large sections of whitley at a number of crashes were left by the RAF recovery teams? It seems that they recovered all of other crashed aircraft (because of my interest I am thinking about Typhoons in particular) in what seems like more difficult circumstances…were they really inaccessible at the time and it is only with more modern equipment that they can be recovered? Was it because of the type…or is it basically unknown and it was just lucky for all enthusiasts that the sections survived so that perhaps one day we can see a complete whitley.

    Looking at your list of surviving parts…will the RAF museum be interested in seeing the rear fuseage incorporated into your project or will it be down to allow access to it to enable you to build a new one?

    in reply to: Whitley recovery or salvage #1185594
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    Thanks Tim – your help moving the centre section will never be forgotten! I’m waiting for the jig to be delivered – once it gets on, i’ll send you a picture.

    Don’t start me about the goat shed – less said the better.

    I agree, the work done by Elliott is amazing, true dedication to the cause!

    The piece of fuselage owned by Mark Evans was more like 25 inches long, not 25ft. Still a very impressive piece though.

    It came from a remote Scottish island I believe, the Whitley had crash landed and as was too remote to salvage so it was broken up on site, many parts being used by the locals. The fuselage section was used as a goat shed IIRC.

    in reply to: Whitley recovery or salvage #1185606
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    Thanks Martin

    Are you back early from Popham? I knew there were enough parts for a project when I started, otherwise I wouldn’t have done so, but it’s been tough all the same. We’re in the rebuild phase now and a much larger workshop is on the cards too. I also want to start developing a volunteer base in London so anyone who wants to help out – even cleaning parts – will be extremely welcome!

    Mark Evans fuselage part is made up of part of the centre section and part of the front and rear fuselage at either end. It is a quarter section if you like of the fuselage with some flooring. I recently gave him the remaining missing joints for it which we recovered in 2005 as part of an exchange.

    You`ve done really well Elliot, to pool all that stuff together..You were probably told “you`ll never find any Whitley Stuff”.The stuff is out there if you want to put in the mileage and pay through the nose for it.

    in reply to: Whitley recovery or salvage #1185850
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    That’s alright – always happy to talk about Whitleys 🙂

    The project holds:

    Port and starboard outer wings
    Large sections of port and starboard inner wings
    2 Merlin Xs
    A pair of undercarriage legs
    Engine bearers – approx 1.5 sets
    Completre set of original wooden blades
    1 Rotol hub
    Centre section – 90% complete
    FN16 front turret
    Large sections of front fuselage cockpit floor + a multitude of smaller parts including canopy remains
    A variety of small-medium sized sections of rear fuselage
    Several bomb racks
    Pilot and navs seats
    Throttlebox

    The RAF Museum have the rear end of N1948 which is currently on show at the Midland Air Museum – this is the largest surviving Whitley part on public display and is well worth a visit.

    Mark Evans has a section of fuselage from BD232 measuring around 25′ long

    I’ll try and put some photos up

    in reply to: RAF B-17E Flying Fortresses #1185857
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    Steve

    It looks like it’s been censored.

    in reply to: Whitley recovery or salvage #1186209
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    Hi Mark

    This goes back years – I was in touch with one of the crew members sons long ago. An aircraft in this area was allegedly spotted by a diver in the 1990s – the only exposed part was a bit of the canopy. From this it was concluded the aircraft was a Whitley as one was known to have come down in the vicinity. I do not think they were able to relocate it again.

    I spoke to the latest diver who has taken up the search – he told me that he has not found any evidence at all that an aircraft is even there and if there is one, it is buried under 4m of mud.

    It’s not clear to me why this was reported the way it was in the aviation press as nothing at all concrete has ever been found. An optimistic, but extremely misleading report to say the least.

    in reply to: Spitfire Firewall Question #1190600
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    Very nice Tony – looks like you are a good riveter!

    in reply to: Any ideas as to what this is from…? #1190775
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    Sounds more likely than Defiant. Very good find!

    in reply to: Even more 29 OTU Wellington Crashes! #1191566
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    I’m sure someone on the forum can help you Marie – I also suggest you post over at the RAF Commands forum – just do a google search and you should find it.

    Regards

    in reply to: Seen On Ebay Thread #1197220
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    Sorry Peter

    Steering this back onto the original topic if I may, so noone can ID the seats then?

    in reply to: Can anyone ID this prop? #1199182
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    Funnily enough it is :p

    in reply to: Can anyone ID this prop? #1199613
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    Schweinhund! 😀

    Now where’s that rubber suit of mine…?

    in reply to: Can anyone ID this prop? #1199699
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    Oh you know me Andy, just ferreting around 😉

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