Am I the only one to think that this had very little to do the with the alleged scum bag the Police shot, and more to do with mindless thuggery?.
Sadly this seems to be the shape of things to come really, I do not know the area well but from what I can see a few very nice old buildings may of been destroyed.

Not impresed and all over nothing.

Just recently I came across a guy on a motoring forum who claimed to be an ex-Tornado driver, but now in Special Forces.

It took very little time to demolish that legend.

He even went off for a few days claiming to be heading for ‘somewhere with a lot of sand’

Turned out to be the Travelodge at High Wycombe 😀

Moggy

Travelodge should sue him for claiming their rooms are dirty 😀

Hi Martin, Unfortunately you are years, and I mean years behind with the “Rental” of batteries. We had a radio, that had a glass, square battery in it. If used sparingly, you could go from pay day (Fridays then) to the next payday. I remember well, it cost two shillings and six pence to exchange for a fully charged one.As for the C5, I recently saw one for sale for £500.00, whether it worked or not however, I dont know, but heartily agree the man who drove? it, was a “Better man than I gunga din”;)
Jim.

Lincoln .7

I remember as a child we had a rented TV and video, But had never heard of battery rental until now. We are more a buy it on credit nation now rather than renting ain’t we.
As to the C5, reading up on them they are rather collectable now. All the same if I had one it would not go anywhere near a public highway with me in it, The guy in Croydon always seems to be parked outside local pubs so maybe he beats fear with beer 😀 . Not that I am claiming any drink and driving goes on by the way>

We have somebody in Croydon driving this Sinclair C5 about, even on main roads. He is a braver man than I.
I also feel that electric powered cars is not the answer for the future, unless the following can be beaten,
1) The need to charge from the national grid(solar maybe a way forward on this)
2) The size and weight of batteries required
3) The charge life of the batteries being more reasonable.
4) Faster charging times
5) Places to charge them

I have often wondered if something like this could help solve the problem,
All electric cars given same batteries so its common across europe.
The solar paneled charging stations holding the batteries put in place of petrol stations, monthly rent on the battery cells then when you running low you swap it at nearest electric fuel station.

You would never own the battery so hence never need pay a huge amount to replace a wornout one, The only thing would be in a bussiness sense would it be profitable for a company to do.

Big mistake I think as it narrows down the amount of viewers likely to watch and splits the season over two channels, making it harder to follow. I won’t pay for Sky TV no matter what. I don’t feel they offer value for money concidering what little TV we watch.

This will be another nail in the coffin of F1 though for sure and a sore loss from the team at the BBC who are doing a great job.

nJayM.

This thread is not about you and your terrible experiences either. It is about Breivik and his murder of an as yet unknown number of people in Norway.

Let’s not go down the route of ‘my life has been harder than yours’ it does nothing other than to diminish the loss felt by the Norwegian people.

Regards,

kev35

I could not have put it better myself, For reasons I am keeping to myself I do have a personal connection to somebody that was harmed by this attack.

@nJayM
At the moment the whole event begs more questions than answers and I personally feel that it is wrong to even mention how the police have handled an extreme incident followed by an even worse one. We do not know all the facts nor were we directly involved in what happened that day. When we do maybe we can judge.

Okay hypothetical only – bomb/s go off in Central London…..

A gunman starts firing indiscriminately at the public at Hampton Court on a hot summers days.

Your family are killed outright.

It took the Police or any authorities 90 minutes to get to Hampton Court to suppress the gunman, because the authorities were concentrating on the bomb/s in Central London.

How would you feel?

And would this happen in the UK now (prior to Friday 22 July 2011) that we have learned some bitter lessons on how terrorism operates?

We all have greatest of sympathy for the families who have suffered at the hands of this evil man, and its not for us to judge whether the police did the right thing or not.
The Police like all resouces are not unlimited or beyond making mistakes in times of huge trouble/disaster.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

@aspis
Sadly i feel that what ever justice is served it will be a hollow one. As nothing can really will make things better for the family, nor do I ever feel his actions can really totally be explained and certainly never be understood.
If he is assumed to be in control of his mind for me it makes it all the more difficult to understand, If he is assumed insane but calculated for me that makes more sense. I also wondered if he was proved sane would that give the wrong idea to others?.
Whatever happens I pray he will never be released I also hope and pray that he suffers for what he has done.

@nJayM
I would expect that all police forces from allied countries share information and advice now, as its the best thing to do and one nations problem can soon become anothers.
I would say that anarchists carrying out acts like this are very rare, but we are in unstable times due to economic crisis etc. Its a careful balance between public freedom and public safety. Its also possible to give any such person or group to much time and respect for what may prove to be a isolated case.

I would say the world is no more dangerous after this attack as it was before the attack and lessons will be learned.

Its best not to fear these people or terrorist organisations as they thrive on that.