Amazing work you guys do!
Thanks for that. We have a great team and the Barra’ build is really interesting. We’re well on with putting the tailplane back together now so there’ll be some more stuff on the diary soon.
We did have the discussion but in the end, Ted Walsh was chosen as the test pilot.
Indeed i have Bill, an amazing achievement considering the amount of detail.
I’ve often wondered if Yeovilton have ever looked into the possibility of attempting to run their RR Eagle in VR137 !
Rob
I caused mild panic in the ranks last time I was there by swinging from the prop to see if I could turn it and can confirm that a fat lad dangling from a blade didn’t budge it a millimetre. I asked if we could bring the team down and get a tune out of it but I reckon I’ll look good in Speedos before that ever happens. Would be fantastic to do, though. Will ask again next time.
Bill
Yes vote left and now pulling ahead. And although i obviously can’t speak for the man himself i bet DC would love to see his attempts recognised with Bluebird moving under her own power on Coniston again.
A true Brit, Donald needs to be remembered and celebrated properly for his achievements.Good luck guys.
Rob
Yes, Rob, we seem to be getting a fair result with the poll. By the way, being a Wyvern fan, I assume you have seen Barry Hares’ 5th scale Eagle engine? In the unlikely event that you haven’t, or for those interested, Google ‘Barry Hares eagle engine’. He has a Merlin too.
Bill
BTW two birds with one stone, how about a Barracuda with floats!
Could we make it any uglier? Only its mother could love it as it is! 🙂
I was in no way trying to say you have or had no respect. Neither was I trying to say that of the other member just simply that his comments could have been better put.
No worries, Merlin. I knew what you meant.
Anyway – if it all goes pear-shaped we’ll have that Barracuda built in no time.
ZRX61 I think that is a little unfair.
Just remember who SHE is and have a little respect for her wishes.
I am and always have been a supporter of Bluebird and I too wish to see her as run on Coniston so I am in no way trying to derail Bill’s teams attempts to run Bluebird in Coniston.
I just think you should have a little respect for the families wishes even if it means that they are going against the flow.
Good luck with the project Bill/Mike and team.
We’ve always had much respect for the family’s wishes but recent developments are for all the wrong reasons, unfortunately. The project involves a great many companies organisations and individuals who have worked damned hard towards a certain goal so it is more than a little unreasonable to try and move the goalposts at this late stage. Hopefully common sense will prevail and, in the meantime, thanks for your support. Much appreciated.
Pics
This thread opened with a request for pics of our Barra’ coming out of the loch – we now have some. If you look at the history section of Barracudaproject.com there’s a few on there. The site isn’t quite live yet but it won’t be long.
Something we plan for the Barra’ project site is to collect stories of the people who knew the Barra’ and put as many of them together in one place as we can. So if there’s any stories to be told feel free to send them over and we’ll get them properly recorded for posterity.
We have a Barra’ tail that was dredged out of an estuary and many of the components where the tailwheel goes are immaculate yet there’s barnacles on the bases of the diagonal struts that attach to the tailplane. It also has its original ‘sky’ paint scheme intact. We have a few good examples of original, un-faded WWII paint that was applied before parts were riveted together so at least we ought to be able to get that right.
Ahh, that’s what I was after – thanks for that. An intact Grumman Avenger turned up in the Firth of Forth a few years back in only about 40ft of water so there’s bound to be a Barra’ lying around. Time to dig out the sonar equipment, methinks.
We’re rebuilding the tailplane of our Barra’ at the moment, the fin is in excellent condition so that’s OK but we’re short of some rudder and portside elevator bits so all options are being looked at.
Yes, seen that, thanks. It looks like we’ll have to search the entire stretch of seabed between Crail and May Island. I can’t imagine there’s be much on a seawater-soaked Barra’ we could use but you just never know. Things get buried in mud and preserved and so many dissimilar metals in an electrolyte sometimes produces weird effects leaving things in perfect conditon while everything around them has gone. We’ll see.
By the way – the Barra’ website is a long way from completion as anyone who’s been there will have worked out all on their own but I got moaned at (in a good natured sort of way) for letting it out of the bag ahead of time. Oops.
Sunken Barra’
As some of you know we’re rebuilding a Barra’ for the FAAM. The new website is under construction at barracudaproject.co.uk if anyone want to look-see. Not there much at the mo but we’re adding on a daily basis.
What I’d really like to research is any Barra’s lost in sheltered water because locating things on the bottom of the sea or in lakes is our specialty. I’ve looked at many of the usual references to Barra’s that crashed or were ditched but what there doesn’t seem to be is any more than a vague position for any of them. Does anyone know of one lost in water where we could narrow the search down to a mile or so?
I met Winkle a couple of years back when we co-presented at AAIB. After the gig we had a wander through the hangars and up to the CVR/FDR labs then we had a natter in the car park before he hopped into his car and left.
An absolutely charming gentleman and, as someone has already mentioned, living history. An absolute pleasure to have met him.
As it happens I contacted him only last week to write the following foreword to our soon to be launched website for the Barracuda project.
Here is news to stir all naval aviators, a Fairey Barracuda is to be restored to rise phoenix-like form the wrecks of others. The once prolific Barra – some 2,600 were built by the Fairey, Blackburn, Boulton Paul and Westland factories for the Fleet Air Arm, where the aircraft received a mixed reception. It was never a pleasing sight in flight, and a positive eyesore when in the landing configuration. However, to be fair to the Barra it was not all bad news, for although it did not perform at all well in the torpedo-dropping role, it could lay claim to being an effective dive-bomber. Most indisputable of all, it was the easiest aeroplane to land on an aircraft carrier, and so with the help of rocket assistance, for take-off. It was able to operate from small carriers and give valuable anti-submarine protection to convoys in the Battle of the Atlantic. All in all, a welcome will await this orphan of the storms when it finally re-appears as the only one of its type in the world.
Gas gives a nice flat weld whereas TIG tends to have more bulk but heat flows through aluminium at such a rate that, in my experience at least, there’s nothing to choose between the state of the metal whether you use gas or TIG. I started on gas and now use TIG exclusively.
You still have a large area of material very close to meting point as you go and it normalizes in the same way when you take the heat off. If there’s any doubt you can rub some soap on it and heat until the soap turns black to anneal the metal. By far the most important factor with wheeling welded seams is getting the metal back to the original thickness before you begin. If someone can tell me how to post pics on here I’ll pop a few on.