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October 25, 2016 at 5:17 am in reply to: Russia reveals Satan 2 which could destroy Texas or France #1786259

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mods, can move this to missile section?

October 24, 2016 at 12:18 pm in reply to: How should India fill the rest of the gap: more Rafales, Su-30s, Tejas, or a new type #2182038

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https://www.ft.com/content/e02019f0-95c2-11e6-a1dc-bdf38d484582

Another rumor…

so who would they partner? i think there’s only ONE indian company to partner with, HAL

October 24, 2016 at 8:29 am in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2182363

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Also no stealth paint on that one (I don’t see any filler).

yep, we can see it doesn’t use stealth paint..
or at least the same stealth paint as the f-35. it could be using a different kind.
but its closer to the type used by late model f-16s and black rafale.

October 24, 2016 at 8:27 am in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2182408

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Few more J-20:

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this angle is actually very nice. the pakfa style splinter camoflage and the light colored edges help break up the large body of the plane into smaller parts that make the plane look much nicer.

so any ideas where the first squadron will be placed? Towards Taiwan? Japan? or Vietnam?

October 24, 2016 at 8:25 am in reply to: What were the potential market for the Mirage 4000? #2182412

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Here’s a mock-up of the Mirage 4000 two-seater with Mica. Rafale is virtually the same aircraft at 75% of the weight.

wouldn’t the mirage 4000 still have more range and more radar range if assuming it is using the same set as the Rafale.

October 24, 2016 at 8:24 am in reply to: battle of the sexiest: BBW version #2182430

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I think some of you guys need to google what “BBW” means if you think some of the above aircraft qualify.

BBW:

exactly, we’re looking at the fat, round, slow and large aircraft
not those large sleek fast bombers. (although those are nice too)

October 23, 2016 at 3:13 pm in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2184060

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hi deino. thank you for your interest in Chinese aviation and contribution.

I don’t know you well but is this your book?

http://ur-books.com/?p=2977

lol, dude!!!
you should get rid of that link! it’s not cool.
although thanks for the free PDF!
its a compilation of all the pics found on this forum and others, and others peoples analysis.
but remove the link, some people make a living on books.

October 23, 2016 at 3:11 pm in reply to: which European country will produce the next manned 5th or 6th generation fighter #2184063

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Europe has no need for a 5th gen fighter besides the F-35. Europe also cannot afford a 6th gen fighter program that isn’t a multinational work share program. Ergo no single European country will develop their own 5th or 6th gen fighter, unless we’re talking about UAS.

Even Russia needed Indian financing for Pak Fa. At this rate I doubt Russia can go it alone with 6th gen either.

If you go to the Pak-fa thread, they will tell you the Indian contribution is not that significant for the success of the program

October 23, 2016 at 2:50 pm in reply to: for the future of the KzAF, pak-fa or j-31 #2184142

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Looking at Iranian experience with Chinese aircraft is a bit like asking Cubans for opinion on the state of modern US auto industry. :highly_amused:

unfortunately we won’t be able to get any idea of their newest things since outside of Pakistan, no one really orders them or wants them.
but their old stuff were popular. but we do know the Iranians weren’t happy with the F-7s, the Thais complained about the quality of the ships, and the Iraqis were not happy with the tanks.

October 23, 2016 at 9:44 am in reply to: How should India fill the rest of the gap: more Rafales, Su-30s, Tejas, or a new type #2184641

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Returning south Tibet to whom? Independant Tibet or chinese invaded Tibet?

you are my new favorite guy.
sorry willhem :3

October 23, 2016 at 6:51 am in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2184946

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I did a quick search for Mirage 2000 crashes, and came up with this?
http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/Aircraft_by_Type/Mirage_2000/mirage_2000.htm

Not sure about the full accuracy of the list… but a quick search does show quite a few news reports of Mirage 2000 crashes, some in ROC service, some in Greek service, some French, some UAE, so at any rate the actual Mirage 2000 crashes I think is quite a bit higher than 2-3, and the crashes aren’t only in IAF service.
And considering Mirage 2000 has been built in large numbers and in service for quite a few decades, that kind of crash/accident rate is pretty normal.

i think you are correct. mirage 2000 is a more dangerous plane.

October 23, 2016 at 4:19 am in reply to: How should India fill the rest of the gap: more Rafales, Su-30s, Tejas, or a new type #2185157

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IAF wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole

you guys deserve the gripen

October 23, 2016 at 4:18 am in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2185204

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Alert 5 has another photo

http://alert5.com/2016/10/22/caught-on-camera-jh-7-crashes-today/#more-58434

there’s only a handful of jh7s..200-300 yet more than 4-5 crashes
in comparison the Mirage 2000 has around 600 built and only 2-3 crashes. Almost all in Indian service.

time to withdraw the jh-7. the Su-30 clones already do its job, and better.

October 22, 2016 at 11:55 pm in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2185832

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while our chinabot friends are feverishly debating over the size of airplanes or non-existant stealth paint
something bad happened. a JH-7 crashed a few hours ago

no word on the pilots. but it would probably be a good time to consider withdrawing these old jets.

October 22, 2016 at 11:53 pm in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2185849

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no, Deino speaks for all of us. And we are sick and tired of Russian nationalists invading our section with their pettiness and jealousy.
They know our J-10 and J-20 are innovative designs. they know the J-20 put significantly more effort in all around stealth not just the front. they know the j-20 will reach service first, even though its first flight was later.
that is why they are so desperate to discredit it with things like being a mig, even though it looks NOTHING like it. or its size. even though all Chinese aviation fans know J-10 is 15m and J-20 is 20m. look it up.

plus roughtly 1.5 meters for both 😉
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