Unlikely, they’re mortal enemies.
not really. they were bed buddies for most of history until the 60s or so.
There’s many Chinese who deeply regret that China decided to back the wrong side (Pakistan) instead of India since India has more economic opportunities.
but its probably best for the world India and China don’t work together.
Engineering gap, perhaps. Technology gap? It matters which J-10 version you mean. Prior to fall of the Shah they had assembled far more than F-5’s. And over the years they’ve imported quite a bit of modern multiaxis milling equipment, electronics masking equipment, foundry capacity, and so on.
Brazil makes some awesome stuff like missiles too, but I don’t think they can make a J-10 level fighter. And Brazil didn’t kill off its engineering base through religious purges either
Perhaps you don’t take them seriously enough to think with Russian backing they are fully capable of engineering a J-10 class fighter.
On the one hand, yes, Russia has decided to side with the Shiite world against the Sunni world as of late. But you crazy if you think they will want to help Iran make another competitor to their aircraft.
Look at China, they had to reverse engineer it.
«*airacists*» LOL that’s funny, you just invented the word ?
You first said «*moved it to ground attack within a few years.*»
…now you say «*within 10 years*»… Then again not too bad for an «already reaching obsolecense as a fighter».
And you still didn’t named the air forces that moved them to a2g «*within few years*».
most. the M2K made your F1 obsolete in a2a rather fast.
if you continue to insist the F1 is so lethal in a2a, then why was the m2k made?
33? I severely doubt that number..
if you guys are going to cite the f-14 shoot down which originated from ACIG, then you might as well cite the rest of the ACIG info that says 33 were shot down.
or are you guys cherry picking like Donald Trump?
Super Etendard was a prime example of adapting off the shelf to solve modern problems. The F.1 was no different. The French failed to support their military sales potential by trying to push too much on potential customers. Mirage 2000 was unaffordable to quite a large fraction of customers. When approached by Serbia for Novi Avon, it was quite apparent that Dassault already had a single M88 option in mind. The F.1 was a proven design with reputation for being deadly. And anyone that thinks reputation isn’t important to military sales is fooling themself.
Actually over 33 Mirage F.1s were shot down in Iran-Iraq. they not only had a hard time with the F-14s, but the F-4s which are their technological equivelant.
Like I said, it was moved to a2g roles within 10 years.
nothing wrong with a2g, It was a very good a2g plane. some people don’t like hearing that because they are airacists.
the question is answered: a new type, single engine, more specifically F-16 or Gripen
question, which one is HAL capable of producing in house?
J-10 is not exactly a fifth generation fighter. Iran had the ability to build cars and planes, as well as quite a few heavy industry products. Don’t underestimate them. They are quite different than most any Middle Eastern country.
F-5 and J-10 are a significant technological gap
Fulcrum only for the Gorky
but quite sure they will be taking a long hard look at the Rafale for the next ship
it’s a more capable naval jet.
don’t discount the rafale, iran buying tons of airbus these days.
sure… the Euros F-16As liked when they had to face Mirage F-1C with Super 530F in simulated combat in the late 70’s.
Operated by 14 air forces, not too bad for «*already reaching obsolecense as a fighter*».
Heard it even killed a mighty Tomcat.
reading comprehension is not your friend. It was made obsolete soon.. it means it started as a fighter, but most air forces moved it to ground attack within a few years.
even France already had to design a successor asap
Iran is fully capable of engineering their own J-10 class fighter.
not sure if twin tailed f-5s count as a j-10 class fighter..
or maybe it does.
flight characteristics of what? how did you find 5-9%?
its just paralay being parlayay
he thinks the inside of the pakfa looks like this
This attack, not a fighter 😉
yes, must’ve missed all those bombs hanging under the wing
its okay, its only a 4-10% difference

You are into rumors too much.
Just wait for awhile.
so you don’t think Pakistan is interested in the J-31? ok
Israel has a very serious missile industry and many aerospace capabilities in that, which France doesn’t even have, never mind Rafale export customers.
Rafale is a lemon, France has just squeezed a little more juice out of it.
Tejas ranks as a trainer at best.
The lack of funding for Typhoon has nothing to do with the F-35. The chief culprit isn’t even buying the F-35 and the other two have serious debt problems.
And a carrier that would never have any aircraft and we’d be stuck trying to come up with all sorts of bizarre BS about how our non-stealth fighter was better than stealth. And we’d find ourselves in the mid-2020s with a fighter fleet that was no-longer relevant against peer threats….. just as France will. Seriously, the M2000 will be little short of a joke come 2024 and Rafale unable to do the job unassisted by foreign assets, except against camel-touting suicide bombers.
Why will Airbus sink the rest. Airbus is doing very well in the civil sector, I regret BAE selling their stake in fact, dumb move. And this is yet another point. The UK still has Taranis, just as France has nEROn, it still has a 37.5% stake in MBDA, BAE is massive overseas and Rolls-Royce makes Snecma look like a joke. The market share and figures speak for themselves. The UK/European aviation/defence industry is only crumbling inside your tiny mind.
wow you hate France more than:
KGB hates China
Nicolas hates Typhoon
Jo hates the Pak-fa’s inlets
Msphere hates the F-35
Deino hates being wrong