Regarding the engines, these are indigenous IHI XF5-1 turbofans delivering 49.03 kN (11,023 lbf) with afterburner.
As such all this hype about a new Japanese stealth fighter are bit over the top IMO … is is a giant leap – most likely especially technology-wise – but this bird is not a fighter. It is simply what it is: a demonstrator.
what hype?
only 3 people here have reacted to it.
i think most of us know its a tech demonstrator like the x-35, x-32, donkey punch
After the originally planned maiden flight yesterday had to be cancelled due to bad weather, it was today succesful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=180&v=euxaO8-xNtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=202&v=Ldw-gbPYleo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWqN6ZHV0rwThe first flight of the x-2 (ATD-X Shinshin) was performed in 4/22/2016 8:45, from Komaki to the Gifu air base.(Already landed after 30 minutes flight.)
http://narublo.com/naru-334:applause:
Ура! Ура! Ура!
as donkeys would say
Frankly, do you think that it was a good idea to set a ridiculously high bar? Was the plan to ingeniously design and build the engines, radars logical and achievable? Without the ridiculously high bar (getting f414 and israeli radars from the beginning) the tejas could have been completed like in 2005 and resources could be then directed to a 5th gen fighter, and there would not be a need for the rafale buy in the 1st place.
As for comparison with the jf-17, the tejas might be a better plane by a bit, but as is for now, it is still work in progress while the jf-17 has entered squadron service. By the time the tejas finally enters production, who knows what advancement block III or newer jf-17 will have.
toledo, i agree.
JF-17 is actually a pretty mediocre airplane. no matter how much the apologist and fan boys like to scream “but itz gots DSI boss!”.
the Tejas is a far more ambitious airplane.. that will never get into service in meaningful numbers in a meaningful airframe. In which case, what good is a prototype aircraft vs one that is actually flying.
Tejas bar is like asking a honda civic to perform like a mustang. maybe they should just accept it is a civic.
Yes, it won, despite it lost the trail where both competiting choppers should find all targets on the battlefield. According to ex-head of Russian Army Aviation Combat Training Department, Alexander Railyan, Ka-50’s pilot managaed to find only two targets out of 25, while Mi-28’s crew found all of them.
Funny, but NASA’s experiment, during LHX program, supported this Railyan’s claim.
Never heard of that. Where did you read this?
It wasn’t suddenly. Head of the Army Aviation dreamed about “Su-25” just in the form of helicopter. But reality was that single-seat helicopter flying at extreme low-altitude over battlefield took too much of attention of its pilot to simply do the combat task and keep acceptable situation-awareness.
Never heard of that, as well.
good reply from the uncle of Simba.
If all of what you’re saying is true.. then the initial bias in favor of the Mi-28 stems from the Ka-50 single seater.
However the Ka-52, resolving this issue and more, showed its worth and is an overall superior platform to the Mi-28 except for the transport in old il-76s.
However in order to justify the purchase of two models, a story of “one is a scout the other an attack copter” was invented.
The Turkish President is currently Recep Erdogan – it means ‘Brave, Warrior Hawk’
Kamov re-worked the single-seat Ka-50 to produce the tandem two-seat Ka-50-2 ‘Erdogan’ that would be licence-built in Turkey by TAI.
The helicopter incorporated avionics produced by the Israeli firm of IAI.The mockup was on display at MAKS 2003 – where I took these photos…..
The Ka-50-2 lost out in the Turkish competition to the Bell AH-1Z(?) Cobra IIRC.
Ken
Good thing this never happened.
For the Russians.. Everyone was getting a hard on a decade ago over this mock up because it had a good angle. but now that we have more clear shots. it’s pretty ugly, and a lot of the pilot is exposed in that huge bubble. I heard this seating also had center of gravity issues
For the Turks.. had they bought the Erdogan before the coming of Erdogan, the Erdogan would’ve been jeapordized by the Erdogan administration because Erdogan destroyed his relationship with Russia. This would’ve caused Erdogan to indirectly limit off spares and support for the Erdogan.
Completely wrong.
Pakistan will never be in a position to replace India in Russia and India does not want to replace the Yo-Yo relationship US has with Pakistan. US will support whomever they need at that time as they always do and India knows that.
Further the difference between Pak and US are only on Afghan Taliban (Yes terrorist today, but were potential business partners for US pre 9/11 and we don’t know about the future)
Best solution will be to get as many US freebies as possible as the first line and spend own cash on Chinese/Russian equipment to beef up the numbers. They do need to rationalise as currently PAF have equipment from every major aircraft manufacturing nation (US/France/China/Sweden/Russia (MI-17s).
actually we are saying the same thing.
Pakistan and US differ on definitions of terrorists. Pakistan is much more limited and smaller in definition, making the US weary of this partnership.
Yo-yo relationsips are everywhere, but for the time being India is going away from Russia and to the US, Pakistan is going away from the US and to China and Russia.
If possible Pakistan would rather buy european, as seen in their preference to keep the Mirage III running as long as possible, French submarines, Ukrainian tanks, Russian jets.. etc
but they be a po’ people, so the best thing they can do is buy Chinese and stuff it with Chinese targeting pods, and other stuff.
dumb, they should’ve ordered Japanese submarines like Australia
Russian Kamov Ka-52 ‘Alligator’ Sees Combat Debut in Syria
Take this witha grain of pepper
but Bulgarian defense sites claim that the Russians are more impressed with the Kamov’s performance over the Mi-28 so far in Syria
Pakistan to receive 9 AH-1Z attack helos
Eventually replace their AH-1F Cobras with these AH-1Zs, Mi-35s and Z-10s? And also evaluate the Mi-28NE? Just how many types does the PA need when they’re buying them in such small quantities? Needlessly complicates logistics, maintenance and training.
And what does this say about the Turkish T129 ATAK? They were interested in selling them to Pakistan but seem to be only ones left out.
Pakistan is realizing these light weight attack helicopters like the Mongoose and Z-10 are too compromised for their role.
if you’re going to buy one, you go heavy and nothing else.
Pakistan needs a US and a non-US solution because they mutually don’t trust each other.
Pakistan knows the US will side with India.
US knows Pakistan will side with terrorist groups in certain countries
Russia knows they are losing India as a customer so this is a benefit to both.
Russia gets a replacement for India
Pakistan gets access to Russian weapons that are better than what they could get with China.
Pakistan unimpressed by Z-10 and JF-17 potential, seeks to order Mi-28 and Su-35 from Russia
http://quwa.org/2016/04/01/pakistan-reportedly-interested-su-35s-mi-28nes/
http://www.rt.com/news/338901-Russia-China-fighters.html
China to buy 24 advanced Russian PAK-FA fighters in estimated $4bn landmark deal
On Friday, China expressed intent to purchase advanced Russian fighters said Sergey Chemezov, the head of the Russian state-owned high-tech giant Rostec, told Kommersant business daily.
Chemezov didn’t disclose the details of the deal, but Kommersant cited sources in the Russian arms industry as saying that China had purchased 24 PAK-FA at a price of about $160 million each.
The decline of the ruble makes the PAK-FA the cheapest option for fifth generation fighters. It is likely the advanced Russian fighter jets will complement China’s stealthy strike fighter, the J-20
Your link is headlined to an article about the Mitsubishi X-2 demonstrator while actually directing the user to a subscription page for ‘Flight Global’, and is followed by a quote from an article from ‘The Diplomat’ about the MMRCA cancellation, dated August 2015.
Weird.
my sorry. i still had the url for another post in the cache.
Japan unveils second modified X-2 prototype
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/second-mitsubishi-x2-421374/
NAGOYA, Japan—Japan on Friday unveiled its second radar-evading stealth aircraft, aiming to close a gap with neighbors such as China and Russia, which have been flying fighter planes equipped with the technology for more than five years.
Confronted with regional challenges such as China building artificial islands in the South China Sea and North Korea testing nuclear devices, Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has eased postwar restrictions on the country’s military and is trying to bolster its limited weapons-building capabilities.
In the latest move, the Ministry of Defense showed off a test aircraft called X-2 in a heavily guarded hangar at a factory here that is operated by Japan’s biggest military contractor, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. Ministry officials said the first plane would perform its first test flight as early as mid-April while the second prototype is expected to fly in the summer.
At 14 meters (46-feet) in length, the ¥40 billion ($340 million) red and white-painted X-2 is smaller than a standard jet fighter. It is unarmed and its engines are underpowered. Analysts say it would take many years for Japan to develop it into an actual warplane. The second prototype introduces multiple modifications from the first prototype, including a new canopy, wing, and an internal bay.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/second-mitsubishi-x2-421374/
India cancels Rafale/MMRCA..Again!!
It is official now: The Indian government has cancelled its $12 billion program to purchase 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA), according to Defense News.
“The RFP issued earlier for procurement of 126 Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) has been withdrawn. In this multi-vendor procurement case, the Rafale aircraft met all the performance characteristics stipulated in the Request for Proposal (RFP) during the evaluation conducted by Indian Air Force,” a July 30 press release circulated by the Indian Ministry of Defense stated.
The statement provided no additional reasons for the program’s cancellation, although the announcement comes as no surprise to observers. Pricing differences as well as the inability to come to a mutually satisfactory arrangement over the question of technological transfers, as well doubts over India’s ability to build the plane locally, were the likely main causes for the withdrawal of the RFP.
As I reported back in June (See: “India to Buy Only 36 Rafale Jets”), the price tag for $20 billion MMRCA project went up 2.7 times from the original cost proposal, according to Indian press reports.
Originally, the MMRCA project had India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) building 108 out of a 126 total Rafale jets locally, with the first batch of 18 fighter jets directly delivered from France in flyaway condition.
However, New Delhi announced in April last year that it would only purchase 36 off-the-shelf Rafale fighters in a government-to-government deal instead of the original 126. Back in June, Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar told local press that 126 Rafale aircraft are “way too expensive” and “economically unviable and not required.” Purchasing the fighters would have been “a very steep slope to climb financially (…) we are not buying the rest. We are only buying the … 36,” he said.
The current contract under negotiation for the 36 off-the-shelf Rafale – expected to be concluded by the end of 2015 – includes an offset clause which stipulated that France will have to invest 50 percent of the contract value as offsets in India, which could cause further delays. The costs for the 36 Rafale fighters – excluding the maintenance contract and the weapons suite – are estimated at around $4.5 billion.
According to the Times of India, India will very soon invite global defense contractors to once more compete under the “Make in India” campaign to build 90 fighter jets for the Indian Air Force at an estimated cost of $30 billion.
“An RFP is expected to be drafted soon for making 90 MMRCAs in India. A global tender will be floated. The private sector will also have an active participation,” a source within the defense ministry told the Times of India.
Out of the 90 aircraft, 54 allegedly will be single-seaters and the remaining 36 tandem-seaters. There is also the possibility for the additional purchase of 45 fighters in a follow-up order, the source added.
The aircraft types that will be reconsidered include all jets from the original bidders such as Russia’s MIG-35 (RAC MiG), Swedish Gripen, French Dassault Rafale, American Lockheed Martin F-16IN and Boeing’s F/A-18IN Super Hornet and the Eurofighter Typhoon build by the Eurofighter consortium.