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  • in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2227001
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    New image of Z-18A …

    looks a lot like the mi-38.
    did they work with the russians again?

    in reply to: Crashes haunt Indian Dhruv helicopter #2227005
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    either way its going to fall.
    shouldve bought russian or augusta

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2229824
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    @Isengard
    Does Zelin know what the maximum speed of the F-22 is, much less the J-20 (which is still in the prototype stage). Higher g-load? From what I’ve read the T-50 is rated for 9 g, just like the F-22 and presumably the J-20.

    And of course the head of the VVS would claim that they have superior platforms. It’s just about as credible as some USAF general calling the T-50 4.5 gen. Note that he didn’t actually specify any parameters. Frankly, you’re really not adding anything to this discussion.

    Also, Berkut, I’m pretty sure Acatomic is right. Compare to the canopy of T-50-4, there’s definitely a difference in the rear part.

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    better eyeball analysis than that other guy lol

    in reply to: Frankenplane Prototypes #2229826
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    some how looks very Asian fighter ish lol

    can you do a pak-fa with swing wings or stealthy tomcat?

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2235874
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    no forum and blog pls :))

    http://www.militaryparitet.com/editor/assets/new/Files4/J-10B_AESA.jpg

    oh, this is real radar AESA ? or model ! you don’t known any specs that right ?

    look at! this is model Stealth aircraft of Iran.

    http://images.tienphong.vn/Uploaded/Images/b/4d3/b4d382f3df06893244a4132934d9ea2d.JPG

    Chinese AESA Radar is something similar

    Range Scanning ?
    The ability to search (number of target can track/lock) ?
    Elevation scan ?
    There Mode SAR ?
    maximum power ? really, not rumor
    How many TR Modules ? really, not rumor
    Experiment with aerodynamics of J-10B ! – very important
    The test with missile PL-11/12! – very important

    China does not have the ability to Russia, Europe and the US, they can not shrink electronic circuitry to ensure proper operation. Be realistic, China is sure they want to brag J-10B exporters with AESA radar but they are stalled

    Remember Zhuk-AE , APG-77 and Captor-E were tested with weapons. They have perfected the ability to operate. Any information shows J-10B has really been tested radar, weapons?

    a lot of non chinese posters here thought that was a PESA above

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    Thankfully it died before getting very far, but in HINDsight the Mi-24PN was a waste of time.

    you or anyone, can you please bring me up to speed. what is wrong with the Mi-24PN, Tiger, NH90 or Eurocopter for that matter.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2241618
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    Maybe they will. I get where you’re coming from, but I’m not yet convinced that’s what we’re looking at. Better pictures, preferably where we can see how the nacelles reflect sunlight, might help a lot.

    don’t bother. that’s the same tard who thought the APU outlet was super facted and stealthy, and thinks the stains on the engine nacelles are where the blockers are lol.

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?111400-PAK-FA-episode%26%238553%3B%26%238551%3B&p=1797738#post1797738

    I wouldn’t say that picture is faked, just that that ‘device’ is clearly not the compressor face, for a whole host of reasons argued over ad nauseum.

    Imho, the location of that device is given by those two ‘dirty’ bars that have formed on ’51’s’ intake undersides:
    http://maks.sukhoi.ru/media/photo/maks2011/maks2011dm2_065.jpg

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?118951-Pak-Fa-news-thread-part-21&p=1971025#post1971025

    The facets are a function of the (shaped) APU inlets slanting outwards, differing from the 2 preceding prototypes where they were slanting inwards. Facets are also discernable on the starboard (L) inlet, which is in shadow (note shadow of aircraft on the tarmac) and not as sharply focused as the port (R which is in direct daylight. Also, notwithstanding the fact the starboard APU is a different shape to the port.

    Given a dull, overcast day I would highly doubt such shadow effects could result in such sharp, structured shapes on the port if it was a smooth, uniform surface a la ’51’ & ’52’. In fact, the lighting/shadow conditions probably highlight the shapes. Besides, the visible reflections have blurry edges.

    I think it’s great they’re paying such attention to the ‘small fish’, having fried the “bigger fish” probably around a decade ago.

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2258755
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    Butthurt is strong with this one.

    it is obviously influenced by the f-35 no matter how much you deny it

    but some rumours talk about yet ANOTHER single engine -this time- light fighter from CAC. Can you imagine THREE chinese LO fighters?)

    and you hear this from where?
    a lightweight LO fighter is an oxymoron. no light weight airframe will have the size to accommodate both a bay and practical amounts of internal fuel unless your intention is to just have two AAMs for a bay.

    in reply to: Malaysian Airlineus 777 shot down over Ukraine 2 #2258760
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    Yes, and the evidence clearly points in one clear direction. Towards a heavy missile (not some stupid R-60) coming from ground. From a Buk. Whose location at the time of shooting has been exactly pinpointed, inside of rebel area. With Buk parading through a town just some hours prior. It is a game of connect the dots. Sorry, but the evidence is so massively out weighing any other hypothesis it isn’t even funny.

    But that is the last i will have on this discussion as i feel people are entrenched and will not budge despite the evidence.

    most of the “pro” Russia members here are not even Russian or really pro-Russia at all, they’re just motivated by their anti-US or anti-West bias. lol
    Most actual Russians tend to be far more sensible.

    in reply to: Malaysian Airlineus 777 shot down over Ukraine 2 #2261043
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    lol those silly Russkis

    Web users debunk Russian TV’s MH17 claim
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30064374

    Russian state TV has broadcast what it claimed to be a photo of the moment Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter jet. But many commentators dismissed the image as a “crude fake”.

    Late on 14 November, Russia’s state-controlled Channel One TV broadcast what appeared to be a satellite photo of a passenger plane and a jet fighter in the skies above Donetsk, a separatist stronghold in Ukraine. It was, the report said, the moment the Ukrainian jet fired a missile at MH17.

    This theory has long been promoted by pro-Kremlin media, and it came to the fore again as President Vladimir Putin was preparing to meet world leaders at the G20 summit in Australia. He is widely expected to face some tough questions over Russia’s alleged role in the Ukraine crisis and the downing of MH17.

    Channel One said the “sensational photograph” came from a certain George Bilt, who claimed to be a Massachusetts Institute of Technology graduate with more than two decades of experience in the aviation industry. He emailed it to Ivan Andriyevsky, the first vice-president of the Russian Union of Engineers, the report went on.

    “We can assume that the photograph was taken by an American or British satellite,” Andriyevskiy told Channel One, “we have studied the photograph in detail and found nothing suggesting that it is fake.”

    The presenter, well-known pro-Kremlin commentator Mikhail Leontyev, agreed. “To fake something like this, you’d have to be an even bigger professional than to have access to this kind of information,” he said.

    Mr Leontyev also suggested that the timing of the report was not accidental either. “We know that Australian Prime Minister Abbott threatened to ask our president some difficult questions about the Malaysian Boeing. Let us help him,” Leontyev said at the start of the broadcast.

    Online scepticism

    But shortly after the broadcast, many web users concluded that the image broadcast by Channel One was a crude forgery rather than a solid piece of evidence.

    Several commentators pointed out that the “Malaysia” logo on the plane from the photograph was in the wrong place. Maksim Kats, a Russian blogger, said the plane in the picture looked like a slightly altered version of the one that tops the search results if you Google “Boeing view from above” in Russian. It also happens to be a publicity photo of a Boeing 767, not a 777, which was shot down over Ukraine in July.

    Others noted that the fighter jet looked different from an Su-25 – the type which the Russian media had consistently claimed shot down MH17.

    There were also claims that the shape of clouds in the satellite image proved that it actually came from a Google Earth photo of the area taken on 28 August 2012.

    Furthermore, those who carried out a reverse image search on Google found that the photograph with the two planes was not so new or exclusive after all: it was first uploaded to a Russian forum on 15 October. Its source was claimed to be “enthusiasts from the Russian wikileaks”.

    Crude fake’

    The apparent flaws in Channel One’s report triggered a torrent of ridicule. Ilya Varlamov, one of Russia’s most popular bloggers, called Channel One’s claim “a crudely photoshopped fake… just one episode in the information war”. “Keep your brain clean, don’t watch TV,” he urged his readers.

    And one user on Russia’s Aviaforum website said: “We’d have a good laugh about it, if the topic wasn’t so tragic”.

    cue on mack8 and paralay;

    western media is biased!

    in reply to: Malaysian Airlineus 777 shot down over Ukraine 2 #2261451
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    http://rt.com/news/205339-mh17-air-plane-malaysian/

    the only “news” agency that is still interested into digging who shot down the plane, there is a reason why ukraine is stalling all these “independant” investigations- they are hopeing that whatever evidence is there can dissapear with time. but unfortunately for them… the radar data is there

    yes indeed. because all the other news agencies are not investigating it.. they must be wrong!

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2261454
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    Am I wrong or did the CNN video feature a Shenyang J-11 rather than a J-31? Nothing at CNN surprises me.

    they did, but it later turns to the j31 during the actual interview with the Janes people.

    but Deino is right, its a tech demonstrator, no way of telling how its actual electronic systems will be or the future air frame.
    the only thing we have is the raw performance. so the Su-47 certainly wowed people in its raw performance despite not having much electronics developed.
    the J-31 could not.. at least not yet.

    usually new planes like this are developed together with new engines. but they’re using off the shelf ala gripen.

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2261804
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    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-analysis/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

    CNN basically says it sucks.
    overweight and under powered. if russians designed it, it would work

    in reply to: Best Russian heavy weight fighter #2228920
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    I can do even better.

    Foxhound was design for the sole purpose of being an constant threat to Bomber, AWACS and Tanker platforms. But not fighters, it is designed to zoom around them alltoghter.
    Whereas the Flanker IS designed to engage fighters. Its called Airsuperiority.

    yes that is perfect…text book definition,
    yet you assume the Su-35BM can’t do the same to Bombers, AWACS and Tanker platforms.

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    As far as civilian production goes, China’s struggles with ARJ and Comac do not lead much credence to the idea that they are somehow moving past Russia, whatsoever.

    For all the money they are tossing into military and civilian aviation, the result is…mild.

    hm yes you are right.
    there is a belief in china if you throw your money at something and mimic something successful, you can do it too.
    but some things, especially engineering and social stuff, take time, no matter how much money you throw at it.

    too bad almost none of China’s newest combat aircraft are exported, we can’t get feed back on how far they really are.
    the last one I recalled were the Thais who got some ships and tanks in the 80s, but were displeased with the quality.
    Pakistan is mostly flying older Chinese tech bar the jf-17 and even then the engine is Russian

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