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April 17, 2004 at 3:09 pm in reply to: Aviation Art #2697601

Haleyoneshoemak
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Got this from the WMF site:

http://www.wforum.com/wmf/uploads/jh7_pic_1.jpg
(To view: Copy & paste to address bar then click enter)

April 17, 2004 at 2:48 am in reply to: Wow! What a load!!! No wonder it's the fighter bomber choice of the east… #2697667

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by Hyperwarp

………

Cool pic, Hyper!
Now, this too is interesting….

Related pic:
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2004-04-16/U28P27T1D193643F3DT20040416091111.jpg

Also, credit must go
where credit is due… Thank you,
Mr. Putin. From all of us!!!

http://bbs.china.com/images/2004-04-15/1082010966Image1.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2004-04-15/1082023750pla-4.jpg
http://61.132.72.44/dswc/upload/images/07659390130.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2004-04-16/10820884271081827058.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2004-04-15/1082011157Image5.jpg

Now…

The FC-1/JF-17 ‘Thunder’ –
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_1506.shtml
Future prospects [ Part 5 ]

April 17, 2004 at 2:31 am in reply to: JDW: Chinese AWACS 4/16/04 #2697668

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by google

It’s probably nothing new b/c they hang around on this (or other) forum(s) to get pictures and info.

Actually, the best and the quickest way for pics and
military materials on China is not AFM. It’s not CDF, or CMF either.
Try WMF, China.com, zgyb.bbs.xilu, and the top81 site.

I think those are the sites people get their sources.

However, even if the state of the arts electronics
inside this Chinese AWEC is indiginous as claimed, this overall system, IMO,
is still no big feat — not if the airframe is imported.

April 16, 2004 at 12:32 am in reply to: Wow! What a load!!! No wonder it's the fighter bomber choice of the east… #2697959

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by Hyperwarp

Engine Test? What is it? Spey or WS-9

I’ll take this guy’s word for it.
http://www.wforum.com/specials/articles/04/2041.html
The notion here is that it’s a WS-9.

Also, word here is that radar is JL10A PD whatever …
http://www.wforum.com/specials/upload/50929737880.jpg
that is and, the new armament is the YJ82K anti-ship missile.

And, don’t know if this CCTV-1 pic has
been posted yet but looking good anyhow and claimed
as the JH-7A curently undergoing flight tests.

http://www.wforum.com/specials/upload/jh-7a-1.jpg

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April 15, 2004 at 10:32 pm in reply to: FC-1 thread – (Prototype 03 onward) #2697981

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Originally posted by SD-10

The FC-1 ‘s architecture…

Military Aviation: The FC-1/JF-17 ‘Thunder’
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1131&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040415%2F1550861866.htm&sc=1131
The roles of the JF-17 for the PAF and PLAAF ( Part 4)

April 15, 2004 at 9:41 pm in reply to: Wow! What a load!!! No wonder it's the fighter bomber choice of the east… #2698001

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by Hyperwarp
……….

The JH-7??? It’s here to stay!!! It seems to
be taking on radical changes — it seems to be looking more and
more — a much more fearsome-looking beast!

More on JH-7s:
http://pic.tiexue.net/origin/2004_4/2004_4_14_49298.jpg
Now are those C-802???

Also, cool formation of Q-5s just for the fun of it…
http://www.pladaily.com.cn/item/saloon/pic/0001.jpg
Some call it the airborn T-59!!!!

And how’s about this mother…
http://www.cjdby.com/UploadFile/20044102154463551.jpg
Simply contract it out to Uncle Sam,
drop a few MOABs on target, and then simply hightail
it outta there ASAP B-52 fashion….

April 15, 2004 at 7:56 pm in reply to: Man… No wonder nations are seeking bunker buster mini nukes…. #2698011

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by Vaiar

No, this is a political question as it deals with nuclear weapons building and using them. If the mini nukes are used to destroy some underground complex it means that a nuke is used indeed, with all the negative consequences such a weapon has. That means the nuclear borders have been crossed and nukes are into play.

Mini-nukes are about a forthcoming “technology”.
It’s not about politics. We leave the political headaches to the politicians.
Politics is way too much for us mere mortals to handle.

April 15, 2004 at 7:33 pm in reply to: Wow! What a load!!! No wonder it's the fighter bomber choice of the east… #2698013

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by Hyperwarp

This is for P-II again

Hey! That’s a FC-K-1, or F-CK-1, FCK-1 or whatever. That’s no FBC-1… ;)!!!!

April 15, 2004 at 7:29 pm in reply to: Wow! What a load!!! No wonder it's the fighter bomber choice of the east… #2698014

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by crobato

What’s next on the JH-7?

Something else is also circulating in the www…

Rumors abound, the Russians are supposedly involved
with the Chinese in what’s being quoted as the JH-7 III or the JH-7 B.
This series, if true, are said to rivals that of the Su-34.

So there ya go! It’s a question of to believe or not to believe.

April 15, 2004 at 2:55 pm in reply to: 2006 and Taiwan invasion #2698064

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by Baliga

US won’t risk a war with China. All US will do
in case of a war, between China and Taiwan is to criticize it, and impose
some sanction, that too it’ll be lifted with in a decade.

Well… I wouldn’t be too sure about that…

I mean with the economy in the crappers and Lou Dobbs crying almost
constantly (daily basis on CNN) about the exporting of America; it might even be a
way (opportunity) to break the Chinese monopolistic hold on the world’s economy. As such,
a conventional conflict falling just short of armaguedon can never be ruled out.

Question is this however: As little as we know about
how the economy works: Will a Chinese economic downfall drag down same in the
US and in other parts of the world in the same instance???

Catch 22 & gamble I’d say.

April 15, 2004 at 2:33 pm in reply to: Man… No wonder nations are seeking bunker buster mini nukes…. #2698069

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by Vaiar

So this means that the US has the
right to use nukes freely and when it pleases her and
other countries should abandon them?

Hey Guys,

This is about aircraft bunkers and about subterranean and/or other harden shelters designed to protect the assets of the nations of the world. This is not about politics. Therefore, please leave politics out of this thread.

Thank you.

April 15, 2004 at 2:19 pm in reply to: Man… No wonder nations are seeking bunker buster mini nukes…. #2698073

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by wowcow

Taiwan supposedly has a huge
airbase in Eastern Taiwain that is built into a mountain.
built just like Star Wars.

Any pics of this Taiwan shelter???

Anyway, someone also made a similar claim here of Pakistan a while back
all the while his intended audience had never given any thought or consideration to the
possibility that each and every nation on earth may have somehow been pushed or was compelled
by need and neccessity to built their own Groom Lake (Famous area 51).

This individual, of course, was wantonly and unduly laughed at.

April 15, 2004 at 2:18 am in reply to: FC-1s for Brasil #2698167

Haleyoneshoemak
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.

Actually, Brazil is known for partnering with the ChiComs 🙂
in the field of aviation (ARJ I think is one such joint venture). They’ve also
jumped into bed with the Chinese in the field of space exploration.

Therefore, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they indeed may one day take
up F18’s April Fools Day offer 🙂 and commit to a few of these A/C’s just so that they
can help sustain the positive momentum of both nation’s aviation industry.

However, being that they are already into coops with each other in the
field of aviation; and seeing how the Sino-Pakistani Super-7 joint venture have
produced huge results; I’m incline to believe that they will follow suite with the Pakistani
model and go joint venture with the Chinese instead on a project of their own rather
than to the commiting to of huge numbers of CF-1, if they indeed will go for it.

Look at it this way: Who on earth can afford
items such as Rafales, EF-2000s, F-22s and such, if and when they
cost between $80-100 million USD per unit???

FC-1 insights by a
web buddy of mind via my mail box
for your references:

The FC-1/JF-17 ‘Thunder’ – The History and Design Philosophy [Part 1/3]
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_1492.shtml

The FC-1/JF-17 ‘Thunder’ – Chengdu and FC-1/JF-17’s development [Part 2/3]
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_1498.shtml

The FC-1/JF-17 ‘Thunder’ – Electronic systems [ Part 3/3]
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_1499.shtml

April 14, 2004 at 8:55 pm in reply to: Post a pic of Your fav Modern Military Airplane… #2698258

Haleyoneshoemak
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Well… don’t know if these are my favorite, but, getting notice anyhow…

.

1) Sophistication? Whadda you think, people??

2) Definitely Uncle Ho’s most coolest:

(Vietnamese or so they say)

Well… this is unique also!!!

(Also Vietnamese)

April 14, 2004 at 8:29 pm in reply to: The real SW-10A engine verses the AL-31F? Or simply bulls???? #2698262

Haleyoneshoemak
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Originally posted by crobato

Making a mountain out of molehill again.

Well…

You certainly have the rights to refute, Crob.
However, people, please don’t blame me for it. I’m just following
up on the story because it’s all over the web.

Unlike me, I’m sure many of you are Chinese savvy here.
http://bbs.china.com/military/html/board_57_post/500304/1943188.html
Some of you may enjoy the opportunity of deciphering this then.
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