Originally posted by plawolf
as for the naval J10, well i think the proposed a/c is more like a major redesigned a/c rather then just the ‘basic’ J10 with an anti-shipping package added. the naval J10 is suposed to be a twin engined jet more like the typhoon and rafale and is intended to form the air wing of the planned PLAN carriers. it was felt that a twin engined fighter would be better suited to sea ops then the current single engine configuration.

Yes indeed, I too have this
weird feeling that the J-10B two seater is
intended a carrier based A/C.

Reason: The extra power (additional engine), in my view,
is needed for the J-10 to take off from medium size carriers like
the Varag which China currently have as a speciment.

Here are some indicators pointing to the theory:

a) Rumors/suspicions on the net 2 years previous
of a land based training facility near Shanghai for Chinese
pilots to practice taking off and landing from carriers.

b) Rumors/suspicions that China is fiddling/testing
with catpult technology in yet another facility near same. Could
all of this be just mere runmors??? Possibly!!!

c) Additionally, as I’m sure many of you also frequents the PakDefense site
and would notice this fella over there who claims he’s a nephew of some individual from
inside the Chinese defense establishment. And, his claim indicated that the Chinese carrier project
is a serious one even if the authenticities of the claim can not be substantiated at this point.

By my readings, this fella’s tone
of voice seems to be authentic — there just don’t
seem to be any crying wolf in it.

d)Additionaly, all these newer destroyers (167, 168, 169, 170 171
and much more), which we seen launched or will soon be launched, coupled with
all these models of aircraft carriers that the public had almost intentionally been exposed
recently has to mean something — it might mean a battle group in the making…

And, far as the so-called J-10A stealth project is concerned,
I’d say it’s likely a land based A/C much as that of the f-22 unless of course
I’ve missed on infos on the F-22 as a carrier base A/C also.

Originally posted by PLA
Doesn’t look real to me. To hood just looks to big and the frame in the middle is vertical.

Why is the tail sitting on the ground?
Shouldn’t the whole plane be upright instead? Landing gear
snapped, maybe??? Weird, real or unreal!!!

Originally posted by huitong
J-10 two seater made the first flight on 12-26-03
J-10 (single seat fighter) just got certified and is ready for mass production, suggesting that HK news was not a 100% rumor this time

That’s how I too had
read it (first flight on 12-26-03), and that it’s
supposedly dual engined.

“This sugestion by some guy
from the CMF board should give an indication or two
about where the J-10 is headed…
http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/uploads/jx.jpg
Shame on you CMFers for not sharing this with us AFMers 😉 here!!!”

However, like the FC-1, the world needed pix and there are only unsubstantiated claims!!!
But, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen either of course because unlike that of the FC-1 situation, the (J-10) on the
other hand wasn’t a joint venture. Thus, the Chinese was not obligated to make revelations.

BTW, I also read something today about the Chinese working on unmanned fighter projects just as
what the US is doing and that it would be the next big thing for the Chinese after their 4thG (western standard)/
5thG (Russian standard) J-12/XXJ project is finalized. Heard anything in that respect on other sites???

I guess they (Chinese) are learning and
they are learning fast. And, that the pressure for them to produce and
to deliver is showing unpresidented results…

The Real McCoy??? Or, Hogwash????

Artist’s depiction;
supposed dual seater currently
under development:

Source of above pix:
http://bbs3.xilubbs.com/cgi-bin/bbs/view?forum=zgyb&message=35681
(Click at own peril. Linkage to alternate site.)

Originally posted by PLA
Not allowing anything more high tech then MKK? That means that MKI is more high tech? (Sounds correct what Indian friends here are telling then). Is that why they are talking to the French and putting more effort in the J10 and FC1?

There are talks (Rumor mill) that the EU and the Chinese
are talking about the possible acquistion of the Typhoons once the tech/arm
transfer restrictions are “lifted or voided” ; something that the EU
is now openly challenging the UN. Ever heard of that???

Anyway, me smoking again I guess…

But, who knows how serious this report may be and if it plays into Russia’s
decisons to stop dead at its track on the MKK. A plus for the Chinese my opinion because it
will force the Chinese to rachet their aviation industry Speedy De Gonzalez way!!!

Additionally, another very very recent rumor flying in the net is that Putin
has just signed a deal with China to develop yet another variant of the JH-7 rumored
to be the JH-7III. So, where does one separate fact from fiction here???

Confused as ever, and, as always!!!

The fact that they are still displaying the idea at air shows even after the FC-1’s first flight and the PAF’s commitment to the FC-1/JF-17 is because CAC is after large volume purchases from the PLAAF to replace the J-7s and J-6s which can’t be made up in numbers by the J-10 or FC-1 because of price and foreign parts.

Alternatively however, another source
had suggested that it is also refered to as the cheap man’s J-10
and that what China is after is a committed partner, i.e., that of the Sino-Pakistani
FC-1 joint venture to help bring the project to life.

So far, no luck in that area I suppose
because there is still no words of a prototype which
is needed to fire up the enthusiasm.

However, it is also said that
the J-7sf, (One with an F-8 Crusader nose intake), actually serves as
the prototype for the J-7mf.