JSRThe actual RAND study that the article is based on is available for free download and is a more interesting read.
http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1051.html
I don’t think Taiwan is doomed. Taiwan could make it very difficult for China to take the island, to the point where it could become politically unsustainable for the mainland.
the problem with taiwan is China is making it uncompetitive. manufacturing is fleeing. Taiwan is import depended. and those countries will pressure it.
https://www.eia.gov/beta/international/analysis.cfm?iso=TWN
Taiwan imports about 83% of its crude oil from countries in the Persian Gulf and smaller portions from Angola and other countries, according to Taiwan’s customs agency.
JSRIndia was the 1st nation that widely fielded our latest weapon-systems in 1990’s. Plus, India has quite an open society and media-space, in contrast to China or Venezuela.
India certainly not the first nation for latest weopons. China got them before. and Malaysian MIG-29 were more advanced than any fighter sold to India. Malaysia was testing Su-30MKI as far as back 2001. Malaysia was strong country when they had one leader for 25 years.
Open society is far more open to bribes.
JSRwhat missile is that and what happen to buying this and that.
JSRSo there is almost one that has noticed how the already very long range Su-24s in Syria often sacrificed their two main pylons to carry fuel tanks instead of additional payload, some of them was also filmed landing on bases with those tanks and some ordnance still on, clear sign of a CAS use.
i give real world example of CAS operation unlike V.
Syrian war is much higher tempo due to unlimted supply of money and cannon fodder from Arab world. Wide open borders from 3 sides with Iraki Anbar/Turkey/Jordan/Lebnan/Israel.
look at this example of Camp Bastion. This base at most only for 10 to 15 fighters/Helicopeters. Not the main base for big transports. and still it needed 325 Marines to patrol and got attacked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2012_Camp_Bastion_raid
September 2012 Camp Bastion raid
Marine Major General Charles M. Gurganus was in charge of the base defenses and had reduced the number of Marines patrolling the base perimeter from 325 to 100 one month before the attack
Nato in Afghanistan is lucky that it had borders with Iran/ CIS countries and northern Alliance. Nato hasnt faced full throttled insurgency on all sides.
JSRSure in a permissive environment, the A-10 does perfectly well. I think everyone accepts. Thing is the Scorpion and Super Tucano are quite acceptable in that role as well.
In Syria from single airbase Ruaf managed to strike anywhere in Syria in 30 minutes. plus those planes carried external fuel tanks for on demand loitering. Scorpion/Super Tucano neither has the acceleration/payload nor fuel capacity to do modern CAS in wide area from single airbase.
creating airbase in war zone with full protection is very manpower intensive.
http://tass.ru/en/defense/855430
Three layers of Russian air defense at Hmeimim air base in Syria
JSRRadar got certified recently on Mi-28N
http://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/archive-world-worldwide-news-air-force-aviation-aerospace-air-military-defence-industry/global-defense-security-news/global-news-2016/march/2540-russia-achieved-test-campaign-of-mi-28n-helicopter-s-new-n025n-radar.html
India will be getting AH-64 around 2019-2020. by that time Mi-28 should be getting close to Mi-38 engine performance. Plus all this North African and Iraki desert heat operational experience.
JSRThat is called tailoring of tenders.
There are only specific parameters that matters in a comparision for requirements which are based on like on all plattforms, deployebility, logistics, speed and tactical movement, combat performance, survivability, ranges and limitations and so on. By all accounts it is one sided against the Apache.
On all these requirements Mi-28 should beat AH-64 in Indian environment. India operates 200 MI-171 so the amount of people that can maintain and operate MI-28 in austere airfields for 24/7 will be several times more.
Plus less technical Iraki force could induct 43 Mi-35/Mi-28 in short period of time and they are using it higher tempo.
JSRI wonder what these ’20 counts’ were?
those 20 counts not matter. In India the actual test and actual delivery can be more than 10 years apart. by they time most of deficiencies can be rectified at lower cost.
JSRThx, Captain. But their main role is still anti-tank.
who declared main role is anti tank in 2016 ?
I did – it’s equal. As both of them are using the same old Shturm/Ataka ATGM. But in one thing you’re right, it’s not 1976 – that’s why this is a problem.
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The problem is your outdated thinking . those who can afford tanks in quantity in single theatre where multi target fire and fireget short range missile is needed can also bring destructions in alot of different ways at much greater distances to these attack helos. Theses attack chopper will not even fly.
JSRIt has ALL to do with it, coz it was, and IS, the MAIN task of our attack helicopters since the Mi-28 and Ka-50 families birth, that were designed according with that Resolution. Especially in the light of the fact that we’re NOT USSR and we don’t have all these tank hordes that USSR used to have. As well as the fact that since 1976, AD systems didn’t stand still and progressed greatly. Especially Western ones.
That’s why in 1990’s KBP started to work on Hermes but failed to find the funding from the MoD that couldn’t afford even the fuel for regular training flights in 1990’s, and still can’t find the money for many needed things, even today. This is reality of my country – we faced economical collapse, aggravated by our traditional technological lag in the field of electronics and electro-optics.
Again main task this and that. I told you its not 1976. Read about Yemen war.
what was range of MLRS in 1970s and what is the range of high MLRS in 2016?. compared Scud with Iskander accuracy. now compare the radar range mulitplication of fighters. the range of standoff weopons.
now compare the range of Mi-28 with Mi-24?
There is reason that Saudis have built those giant airbases fully protected by ring of Patroits. helicopters are too short you cannot even use it against high end rival that will blast your make shift airbase of helicopters. base protection takes thousands of men. new F-35 airbase takes $1b dollar on avg over the top of already developed infrastructure.
JSRWrong. According to the Soviet Minister’s Council Resolution, released on 16 December 1976, that gave a start to development of Ka-50 and Mi-28 – the main objective of the new helicopter was described as “destroying tanks and armoured vehicles in the front-line”.
This is hictorical fact.
It has nothing to do with present day developments. infact by over investing in small expensive missiles for attack helicopter. the critcal resources from longer ranged standoff weopons for fighter aircraft can decrease. only fighter aircraft has the engine power for jamming and strike weopons to saturate battlefield.
JSRSo your going to use MLRS against a fast moving vehicle or 2 or 3 vehicles moving at 80km hour, or a group of 2 to 5 insurgents in mountain conditions.
Thats where helos are needed.
if vehicle is fast moving it means it is not in action to fire. rockets and cannon from individual helicopter can deal with it. 80km/hr in rough train nearly impossible.
MLRS/Cruise missiles/TBM with big blast radius are for saturated attack when there is large formation of Armour supported by airdefence.
You need fighters with big radars like Su-34/Su-35 to spot it at safe distance.
putting expensive electronics and missiles will not make attack helo more effective as they have limited range (itself inviting danger to the base), payload, speed, sensors. thats the point Scar not understanding. there is real example of Yemen.
JSR‘Selected over’ Apache Longbow? The Mi-28NE order was done in 2012. where the country’s leadership has turned away from the U.S. so purchasing their helicopters was definitely not an option. But please, you’re welcome to post sources which would argue that the Iraqis ‘selected’ Mi-28NE based on its prowess ‘over Longbow Apache’ rather than just being another assumption on your part.
utter nonsense. MI-28 won based on fastest delivery and ready for operations. (in India case time is unlimted)
It takes nearly a decade to introduce Longbow Apache. Not even Kingdom of Saudi will send Apache into battlefield that is not 100% protected by 400 combat aircraft airpower and airbases fully surrunded by airdefence. umberalla. there is no make shift austere airbase in desert. thats why i said here peeple are detached from reality. 80 to 90% of time these attack helos are using rockets.
JSRStill, it’s $1.9 bil for the helos alone (without engines??) + 1.4 bil for training, parts, ordnance and fifty engines. That is $3.3 bil for 22 helicopters if I am counting right..
this all waste of money and time.
Chinese already sold UCAV to Arab countries. and it is more than likely they will be selling 200km range MLRS. attack helos barely can operate 150km from airbase. against even medium size threat. who can afford advance mobile airdefence can also afford longer range MLRS/artellery/cruise missiles
base protection for helos very critical. only Su-34 class fighter with much longer range high speed missiles in saturated attack can deal with armour at safe distances.
JSRNeither is AGM-114, with the exception of the L version. Still wonder what your point is..
He is detached from reality. Fire and forget you can only use if you have chance of escape. That need considerably longer standoff distance .
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