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  • in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2288993
    JSR
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    The topic of funding for various projects has come up in the PAK FA thread, and this relates to a topic I have been curious about for a while now: namely, intended long-term force levels (say 2030+) and the funding required to achieve and sustain this. Is Russia looking to field 1000+ combat aircraft in future?

    well 600 new combat aircraft is upto 2020. 2020 is period where Ruaf will start expanding in huge numbers consider the investments now going on into defence sector. combat aircraft alone can reach 3000 numbers by 2030. with production rate closer to 200 a year. conclusion is too accelerate production beyond Soviet level that can lift all the boats.

    http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20120220/171406103.html
    Sometimes they say the revival of the defense industry is a yoke for the economy, an extremely heavy burden that ruined the Soviet Union,” Putin wrote in a new article for the Rossiiskaya Gazeta government daily.
    “I am convinced that is a profound mistake,” he said in the article dedicated to Russia’s national security.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2288998
    JSR
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    For the love of God, just go away JSR!

    The VVS is not the only defence sector recieving funding for the Russian Armament plans forward to 2020.
    Its called Priority!!

    Russia can’t do all the stuff the defence sector requests.

    Ruaf procurement is solely depended on defence sector. see An-70 example which is basically thrown away form 2020 procurement. while before it was priority to some extent. Now the priority is replacing 95% UKranian components in one year and this will have major impact on procurement schedule.

    JSR
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    So… $20 billion+ and write your own software. Awesome.

    more like $40b. $20b is only when off the shelf purchase excluding weopons. not transfer of tech.
    slow production ramp, lack of skill labor that can maintain quality across the industrial supply chain with high inflation can compound the cost.

    So it would be perhaps 2030 before the IAF’s Rafales can operate at full potential? Longer?

    probably later than that. consider France has maintained budget of $40b for past 30 years. India is only reaching that point. but $40b 30 years ago is like $100b today. France is barely at 126 Rafale and only few are AESA upgraded.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2289106
    JSR
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    According to Biotr Butowski in Air International.

    Yes Funding is exactly the issue..

    why would funding an issue?
    http://www.nasdaq.com/article/russia-posts-firsthalf-budget-surplus-20140710-00730

    the more weopons developed the greater the export earnings. I would think it is lack manpower resources as production from Ukraine will be replaced 95% in one year time. too many projects going at same time.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2290765
    JSR
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    Have you just watched the movie ‘Stealth’ by any chance?

    movie?
    by the time even 10 J-20 are operation. there will be more than 1500 Flanker variants/J-10 in service. this give you the ratio of importance of non stealth fighters to stealth. The same is case for T-50 ratio to Flankers/MIG-31/Su-34.
    They are not waiting for stealth fighter but putting massive resources into non stealth fighters to make them more effective.

    The Meteor is very well funded, my point was that the F-35 has a relatively large amount of electrical power available for jamming purposes.

    how is Meteor well funded. what is its yearly production rate and test firing?. what is new R&D funding for its AESA upgrade.
    F-35 is also very heavy and draggy for its engine power. there may not be internal space and surplus power.

    infact countries are not ordering F-35 in numbers but only test aircraft. such slow pace of induction means radars/jamming technology will catchup and stealth fighter will become even more expensive.

    http://www.janes.com/article/37547/turkey-recommits-to-f-35-programme
    The delivery of the first two F-35s is scheduled to take place in 2018, the SSM stated.
    “The SSM has been tasked to order the first two F-35A aircraft of Block-3F configuration under Low Rate Initial Production-10 (LRIP-10).

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2291319
    JSR
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    Have you heard about MALD-J? Now that’s a stand-off jammer. How do you know what an ASQ-239 does or doesn’t do? Given that the engine produces 51,000lbf uninstalled and only 43,000lbf installed there’s obviously a lot of zip going somewhere. Meteor might have an AESA seeker, nobody knows, they’ve put a lot of emphasis on stating its ability in extreme electronic warfare environments.

    Size constrained? Budget? How often do wars break out?

    TVC? What’s the big advantage of having TVC on an aircraft rather than on a missile? Or just having a missile that’s capable of 50+g that can engage on a full sphere around the aircraft? Fundamentally the advantage of forward firing a missile is one of energy, not that it really matters at dog-fight ranges (assuming it even gets to that) but TVC loses energy when it’s used to turn and face an opponent anyway.

    Meteor is very poorly funded project with very miniumum production rates spread over decades. It is likely to be obsolete by this time.
    TVC is fundamental to nose pointing ability of fighters to shoot down incoming missiles with gun.
    its the installed thrust matter and only several ton heavy external jammers makes a difference otherwise look at the spine and tail stinger of Su-34.

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2291323
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    Out of $22b foreign contracts signed this year I think Irak will be major but aviation contracts maybe smaller.

    http://en.cihan.com.tr/news/Russia-sells-5-6Bln-in-arms-in-first-half-of-2014-Putin_6460-CHMTQ4NjQ2MC8z

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2291410
    JSR
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    So what properties of an AESA seeker do you consider so important?
    One of the problems with an AESA seeker is the limited number of T/R modules that can be fitted into a small antenna array. To the best of my knowledge, there are no plans for an AESA seeker for either Meteor or AMRAAM. Japan’s AA-4 is the only AIM that currently uses a seeker of this type.

    There have been reports that the new R-77M will have an AESA seeker. At MAKS 2013, the Russian company Istok showed what it described as a “working-model AESA”. In Russia, Agat studied AESA seekers for several years, and is known to have expressed doubts about the idea’s viability, considering it to offer minimal improvement. They have not been at recent Western defence exhibitions, so there has been no chance of getting an update on their progress/conclusions.

    Japanese AAM AESA still not operationally deployed.
    The point is electronic warfare protection is much larger field with much bigger revenue stream involved starting from Helicopters/AWACS/Naval/Land systems/presidential airlines/fighters/UAV etc.. and there is flexibility of space for AESA all the way to GaN modules for protection.
    BVR missile has space , power, money limitation.

    see advantage. Serbian
    http://ruskarec.ru/news/2013/12/04/lovac_pete_generacije_t-50_bice_opremljen_raketama_sa_digitalnim_kontrol_26707.html

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2028938
    JSR
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    With tanker support USN aircraft ranged all over Iraq during the two Gulf wars. Carrier air operations were necessary

    The problem is sortie generation. with tankers the sorties becomes too costly and time consuming. Most of Chinese investments are in south. which is safe for air operations. Chinese just lack the political will to help.

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2028959
    JSR
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    I am not sure what it has to do with Carrier. Carrier is practically useless in such situation. becauase the fight is in Northern Iraq or near to Syrian border. which is faraway from sorties from Carrier in Persian gulf. If China really want to help they can still send all the UAVs and ground equipment through An-124/IL-76.
    Chinese tanks can be offloaded from Central Asian to Iran Caspian ports and goes all the way by train/transporters to Iraq. They can deploy 60 to 70 Su-30/JH-7 to Iraq airbase with direct flight from China.

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2291598
    JSR
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    it seem value of contracts higher than reported.

    http://izvestia.ru/news/573395
    Планируются ли еще поставки российской военной техники в Ирак помимо истребителей Су-25?

    — В 2013 году было подписано много контрактов, а несколько было заключено уже в этом году. Всё будет осуществляться в полном соответствии с ними. Распространяться об этом — не в наших и не в арабских интересах. Могу лишь сказать, что обе стороны довольны сотрудничеством

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2291602
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    Completely agree. Even if only 1 in 3 BVR missiles work, that’s still 2 enemy planes gone for free. Even if only 1 in 6 works, that’s still 1 enemy plane gone for free. Even in Vietnam AIM-7s managed almost as many kills as AIM-9s (60 vs 80) despite having only a third (AIM-7D) to a half (AIM-7E2) of the Pk and some pilots became aces on just AIM-7 kills.

    why 1 in 3 or 1 in 6 will work?. my theory is none of it will work. Just look at budget. Total budget of Meteor maybe $3b to $4b spread over 15 years. Missile is still size constrained. there is no Meteor with AESA seeker yet.

    Electronic warfare pods are not size constrain with practically no limit on budget so upgrades are faster.
    http://www.janes.com/article/36863/dsa-2014-russia-s-knirti-unveils-new-stand-off-jammer
    http://www.janes.com/article/30625/dubai-airshow-2013-knirti-displays-new-su-35-ew-package

    so fighter with best performance, realistic training and gun will win. TVC is single most important.

    in reply to: Fulcrum dogfights with Typhoon #2292503
    JSR
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    Some very known user will hate this answer too but; MiG-29K/MiG-35 when compared to legacy MiG-29A;
    1-adds weight, which will degrade every performance parameter.
    2-It adds to wing area, which should improve ITR and high altitude subsonic STR, but degrades SEP, low altitude str, and high altitude supersonic STR.
    3-It adds to engine power, which should improve STR and SEP.

    Question is, how much these factors affect those data. 13% increase in NTOW, estimated 22% increase in empty weight, compensated by 35% increse in wing area; which also contributes to drag. And all this increase in drag is compensated by 9% increase in thrust. Historically speaking, no newer variant of any aircraft (F-16 blk30 vs blk50, F-18A vs F-18E, F-15A vs F-15E, even F-14A (with P-414s) vs F-14D) got better maneuverability after recieving similar upgrades. I have no reason to think why same shouldn’t apply to MiG-35 vs MiG-29A too.

    However;;; for a more complex guestimating; I played with some numbers assuming MiG-35 uses same airfoil of MiG-29 and comparing at their published NTOWs;

    you don’t know the engine thrust and weight. so all your calculation wrong. RSK-MIG specifically claim increase flight performance. just to get hint if RD-33MK use same technology as 117. its thrust will be closer to 10.5 tons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovAnVd5i16w

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2293069
    JSR
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    Like Russia, India, and Pakistan, China will almost certainly be inducting fourth generation aircraft well into the 2020s. Whether or not it is sensible for India to extend Rafale production into the mid-2020s will depend upon a variety of factors involving Tejas, FGFA, AMCA, Navy requirements, Indian finances, and external developments, the precise confluence of which is impossible to assess at this juncture.

    I highly doubt Russia/China going to induct 4th generation fighters post 2020 period. Russia will be only concentrating on PAK-DA/UCAV/PAK-FA and the rest of 4th generation if in production will be relegated to export orders.

    EF discussion is not irrelevant any more than talk of extending MKI orders. It’s not a simple matter to extend MKI production. In reality it leans India further into Russia’s sphere of influence, which is why they have MRCA and LCA. EF operations puts pressure on Dassault to get the deal on track, MKI does not. Rafale and Typhoon are clearly designed to operate superior to MKI

    Inducting either EF or Rafale will make India further dependent on Russia as Indian forces will be completely starved of funds. It will start with equiping Rafale/EF with cheaper Kh-31/Kh-38/kh-58/Kab-500SE etc. Meteor looks too expensive.
    you can see this in only 10 C-17 example with no follow up order yet. This open possibility for IL-476 down the road. there is no competition for ready made AWACS like A-100. limited C-130 will open the way for MTA.
    Limited Ch-47 is not signed yet but massive Mi-171 entering service. new heavy lift follow up after Mi-26 coming up. helicopter export prospects are way up for Russia. India can afford limited Apache with slow induction rate. This negative impact will extent to Naval and Land systems where India increasing depended on Russian systems.

    JSR
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    how accurate was this predication from 2011. it seem Russian know Indian budget prospects better than IAF.

    http://aviationweek.com/awin/russian-arms-official-expects-india-cancel-fighter-tender
    Russian Arms Official Expects India To Cancel Fighter Tender
    Against the backdrop of the [financial] crisis [sweeping the world], it is hard to see how any government would allow such a waste of money, particularly when there are social problems” to deal with, Komardin says. “And there is no imminent threat to India’s [sovereignty]. My prediction is that this tender will be canceled.” Komardin spoke to Aviation Week on the sidelines of the LIMA Airshow in Langkawi, Malaysia

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