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  • in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2221856
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    etc etc etc ..

    The DOD or the services are not giving up on all other plans for A2AD counter just because the f-22 is in operation and the F-35 will soon be fielded in large numbers. On the contrary capability is being built up to counter all perceived threats from all sides.

    how F-35 will soon be fielded. At best IOC around 2019 in small numbers. that’s a lot time in rapidly changing world.

    Not all the counter will come from fighters..The aim with the F-22/F-35 was always to exist over an airspace with the same impunity as the F-15/16 combo enjoyed during its time. The A2AD forces have become much stronger, and so the fighters need to evolve..Stealth is one aspect, avionics, tactics, ISR and EW is another aspect. Offense and the ability to “rain hell” on the enemy is yet another. All are being addressed simultaneously through known (F-35, NGJ, FA-XX, Darpa Air Dominance Initiative etc) and not so well known (RQ170/180, LRS_B) efforts.

    the problem with Stealth is too expensive so it is sucking money from all other programs and slow down procurement/deployments. infact these stealth platforms are not easy to place closer to action.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2222123
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    MIG-31 has that giant space for radar. and than engine upgrade will make it even more powerfull giving it enhanced performance.
    plus you get faster induction schedule.

    The Sokol plant in Nizhny Novgorod continues to upgrade in-service aircraft to the MiG-31BM configuration at a rate of 15 aircraft per year. The facility has a Russian MoD contract for about 60 MiG-31BMs for delivery between 2011 and 2018.

    in reply to: Naval deployment to Black Sea? #2030484
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    Believe it or not JSR even professors can be fools who write total garbage.The possible re-routing of gas pipes by Russia is not dependent on how many subs Turkey has in the Black sea as the the prof would have us believe

    I would not consider Israel professors as fool. the most technological advanced startup nation.
    rerouting gas line will create severe problem for Turkey as Russia will be free to bomb other pipelines thus increasing gas prices and creating Ukraine kind bankruptcy in all other countries of blacksea.
    by that time Russia would have built alliance with Arabs, Jews, Persian, Orthodox. with complete encirclement of Turkey. this predictions are very safe to make.
    http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2012&mm=11&dd=28&nav_id=83374

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2222300
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    Australia is a partner nation, and as such their contracts are not FMS..They will pick the jets up from the regular full rate of production contracts that are negotiated by the JPO in a similar fashion as they have done with their first 2 LRIP jets.

    As mentioned earlier, the cost that Australia will pay is just an early estimate of a ballpark figure of what the jet will cost to the nation. It can change, and a better understanding of the cost would be possible as we get closer to the full rate of production crafts. As things stand today each F-35 costs around 125 million US Dollars including the engine. We are still IN LRIP7 phase and LRIP8 contracts are being negotiated as we speak. The rate of production between LRIP6/7 and 8 is largely unchanged so whatever reduction in cost that comes with LRIP8 (if any) will come from production efficiencies and cost savings. LRIP 9 will be a 50+ fighter batch and as should introduce some economies of scale. From LRIP 5 to LRIP 7 the JPO managed to save around 6% from the cost of each F-35. Lets see if that trend continues..

    so the 58 are from lots that are at maximum production rate. starting from 2020. so it seems $12b is lowest export price for partner nation as I don’t think any other export country can afford 58 and two airbases same time.

    As mentioned above, the MMRCA is an export of the jet..Australia is a partner nation of the F-35 program, so they do not go through the FMS route as say a South Korea would..All partner nations select the BATCH from which they want their fighters (LRIP batches or Full rate batches etc etc) Once that is done the entire batch contract is negotiated by the JPO, so that all partners within that batch get the same price. LRIP6/7 contract was a fixed price contract..and the Australians did not pay a different price from say Italy or the USAF for a similar model aircraft..

    Other costs may be higher for Australia, such as the more than 1 billion required to set up infrastructure at the bases etc etc, but other forces have paid that already (USMC, USAF) etc..The Aircraft, its systems and its engines (A complete fighter) costs the same to all partner nations (model for model) unless they have to spend more to get additions such as weapons integration etc..The ROKAF’s price may be quite a bit different from what the RAAF or the USAF pay for the A model because thats through FMS where prices tend to be different.

    FMS prices will be even higher than partner nations. and than MMRCA like licensing deal prices will be even beyond that. It seems very few countries will be able to operate F-35 effectively and they surely have to cut every thing else in defense.

    in reply to: Naval deployment to Black Sea? #2030499
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    I see where you get some of your opinions from now JSR. This op-ed piece is one of the most accomplished piles of gash I’ve seen in a while. The author notes that the Turk Navy can only achieve parity with the Black Sea fleet (ignoring the critical imbalance in subs of 11 – 1 in the Turkish favour) if it uses its whole fleet. Using its whole fleet in this context means a day or two’s sailing through the straits…its not much of a logistic challenge. Where does the Black Sea fleet reinforce from?. Vladivostok?. Murmansk?.

    We best leave alone comments of how the Ukraine have effectively handed over 11 ‘major naval units’ when the only major modern combatant in their fleet was alongside in Odessa last I heard and the Black Sea Fleet’s prizes, in fact, number a couple of 30yr old missile boats in dubious materiel condition and more doubtful combat potential.

    There are at least 6 contributors here, without thinking, that could produce a far more credible piece than this…difference is that they wouldn’t arrive at the same conclusion…because its twaddle!.

    the writer is professor. there is no reason for him to write it without substance. he has to maintain his reputation in academia considering as competitive as in Israel. Ukraine is just side show. once Russia built two more pipelines. it will behave very differently with countries like Turkey and Middleast.
    Turks limited budget did not simply allow to operate more than 1 sub at a time. and than consider the poor competence in so many fields. highly doubtfull that subs can survive for too long.

    in reply to: Naval deployment to Black Sea? #2030507
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    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2222692
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    Every air force or department of defense budgets a certain amount of money for a future procurement. The RAAF have to have a “ballpark” figure in mind when they go on and commit to buying 58 fighters. They have to present that number to their MOD which then has to see whether that amount is available for procurement etc etc etc. They also do not know what the “going rate” would be in the time-frame for contractor jobs to build up the infrastructure, but that does not stop them from estimating that roughly 1.5 billion (Aussie) out of the 12 Billion would go towards construction and setting up facilities @ two bases. Weapon costs and training costs can probably be better understood and budgeted for with higher degree of accuracy but they still will not know the final figure until its time to sign on the dotted line. The MOD is not paying anything yet for the fighters.

    The USAF does the same in its budget documents. As mentioned earlier, it often turns out that the price negotiated by the JPO is different from the amount that the DOD budgets for the product. In the case of the LRIP 7 it was 22% lower than what was budgeted. At times the services have to pay more then what they have budgeted or expected..

    Your overall program cost can and does fluctuate…Look at the US DOD’s own cost prediction of what it would cost after everything is said and done. Its come down quite a bit after going up by quite a bit from initial estimates. These costs would be paid over decades..

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/17/us-lockheed-fighter-idUSBREA3G27K20140417

    they are still estimating well into 10 years. this estimate can be widely off for export prices. it is like India MMRCA saga announcing winner years ahead of signing baches of contract.

    http://www.janes.com/article/36906/australia-signs-up-for-58-more-f-35s
    Informed sources expect separate contracts to be agreed for individual batches of the 58 new aircraft, with the first likely to be signed in 2015.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2222782
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    Makes sense, since the program is still in LRIP and and won’t enter full rate of production till 2018 or even 2019, and the fact that they are declaring IOC in 2020. The JPO only has to negotiate long lead items until the annual round of LRIP contracts are worked on. The same is happening for US owned LRIP jets that will be delivered alongside the 12 RAAF birds.

    In October of last year NG delivered the first center fuselage for RAAF’s first F-35..

    This craft will join the integrated test force in a couple of months..

    that’s the point. it is premature to put price on 58 order when the 12 order hasn’t been sign yet with definite price.I have read upto $24b for 58 airplane when maintainanace cost are included. it is very risky for raw material country like Australia with currency fluctuation. they will have to cut to defense in other areas in big way.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2223085
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    And this is what i call good news for the JSF program:

    IOC date:

    And a possible “third tranche” to be decided in the twenties:

    Not too shaby, not too shaby at all.

    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/australia-to-confirm-58-aircraft-f-35-order-398443/

    this is very slow induction. they are still negotiating 12 out of 14. the rest of 58 are post 2020 production look like.

    A contract covering long-lead production items for the other 12 during LRIP blocks eight and nine is currently being negotiated with the USA

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2223468
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    This is my read on things also. The future of Ukrainian industry absent Russia support is bleak. As an undesirable outcome for both nations, this should serve as yet another wake-up call (as if more were needed) for folks who assume a combination of interdependence and rational self-interest mean these kinds of breakdowns in international systems are impossible in the modern era.

    Ukraine aviation industry can still be salvaged if 15m eastern/Southern Ukraine quickly join Russia otherwise IMF led reforms and sky high energy prices will close down all the factories. things were cheap to built because energy was subsidized.

    Ukranian industry lacks automation of modern plants so any input increase from raw materials, labor , to energy can quickly make them insolvent and uncompetitive.

    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/9cc89022-c87b-11e3-a7a1-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2zUMipunf
    Russia’s reliance on Ukraine for military hardware raises fears.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2223839
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    I predict that Antonov falls back into favor within 12 months and begins producing superior products for the Russian Commonwealth within 36 months.

    how is Antonov going to produce superior products?. Ukraine is now buffer state and no one invest serious money in buffer state to create a superior product. Ukriane was part of Soviet Union so it was not a buffer state like Eastern EU. so there was heavy industry.

    until this day Eastern EU can not produce a superior product of its own despite huge investment/skill/money transfer. Only assembly is possibility. Its a dead weight carrying by Western EU. That failed approach is not going to be repeated by Russia. my prediction is its over for Ukraine when current stock is exhausted.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2224061
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    18 per year max production rate. with upto 200 built by 2025.

    http://survincity.com/2013/11/serial-production-of-modern-military-transport/

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -V #2030814
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    You know I am surprised about that, interesting move by Russia. As a PR move it is quite interesting.

    hardly a PR move. but it is to induce Ukraine into wasting money and technical man power in worthless endeavor of operating ships instead of creating real ground forces with all the air defence elements.

    countries simply not trust Ukraine with money let alone give them half decent weopons that can be sold to highest bidder.

    http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/7009
    We know that they have declared their willingness to make a $1-billion loan available, not in the form of credits and assistance, but in the form of guarantees. What does this mean? It means guarantees for banks that would be ready to lend to Ukraine, but there are no such banks and thus this amounts to no assistance at all. This really is a very strange situation and we have every reason to be concerned about it.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2225811
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    Rarely ?!

    Boeing 707
    Boeing 737
    Boeing 767
    Embraer 145 series AEW&C
    Saab 340
    Saab 2000

    If it can be of comfort i like the An-74 awac idea, and i’d like an Tu-95 AESA awac
    http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/an-71.html
    http://globalmilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/antonov-71-madcap-awacs.html

    how many of them carry 10.5M AESA antenna and all the capabilities in one platform. when things get bigger you need much stronger aircraft.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2225902
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    The support structure may be expensive to build, but they were talking about life time cost

    what is life cycle cost? it include time value of money. large upfront payments can decrease money available for training, upgrades and maintainance. when you look at AWACS use it is very specialized plane and very rarely it can be used like commercial airline to get benefit of fuel efficiency.

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