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  • in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2250744
    JSR
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    Really and when was the last time a Russian fighter squadron made a combat deployment around the world (and not to one of Moscow’s neighbouring puppet states)?

    And as stated last time the Russian AF went to war in 2008, it used old fashioned tactics and didn’t display any of the advanced capabilities that even small NATO Western partners such as Dutch or Belgians have been displaying for decades now.

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    Again you dont understand anything and continously with misplaced assumption. Dutch/Belgian advanced capabilities takes time to show up. They cannot finish off Georgia size country with mountainous train in 3 days. This is such speed that no airforce can prepare for it unless there is intention before hand. There is lesson from that speed of operation
    Salaries are increased by 2 times if not 3 times compared to 2008. Considering low taxes it is now more than almost all Nato salaries.
    Trainining in mass formation has increased alot. see the recent exerices. Most of Nato exercise only few aircrafts are contributed by each country and i dont think it involve live firing of PGMs or deploying dedicated EW aircraft.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2251840
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    We are talking a hypothetical WWIII style situation with an assumption of Chinese offensive action.

    As for things like old Japanese F-15s I’d sooner bet on them than Chinese J-7/J-8s which still form the bulk of the Chinese fighter fleet or even J-10As.

    Also Australia is not 100% reliant on imported energy. In fact we’re one of the biggest coal and uranium producers and produce oil locally.

    In any war against China, Australia automatically goes into bat for USA regardless of economic factors.

    Up to 2012, Australian Defence White Papers were focusing on China as most likely enemy. The rhetoric has since changed in 2013 White Paper but I doubt the military planning has really shifted away from China as potential enemy number 1.

    And as in WWII, Australia gives USA a big base with strategic depth – i.e. an unsinkable aircraft carrier.

    As said China can live without Australia Coal/Iron Ore/Uranium (they have started with other countries) just economic growth will be little more expensive/slow. but what will happen to Australlia currency after that?. it is not primitive life style with small population of 1940s.

    http://crudeoilpeak.info/australian-oil-and-fuel-dependency-on-the-middle-east-is-37

    I highly doubt Japanese F-15 airframe condition is for 9G now. You cannot compare them to new airframes and more powerfull engine aircraft that are added each year to PLAAF.
    You have to look at Fukashima accident where Japanese were using low paid contractors to do Nuclear industry work. so highly doubt things are maintained to optimum conditions.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2251875
    JSR
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    Of course USA cannot concentrate fighters in one theatre. But it’s larger fleet means it can match or overmatch China’s fleet whilst still leaving a sizeable reserve.

    And the USA gets bolstered by whatever ally needs US help. And the North Asians offer sizeable capabilities and then the Australian lapdog throws in another reasonably modern fleet with force multipliers into the mix.

    All your assumptions are entirely wrong. North Asians can offer nothing and same is Australlia. All these countries extremely dependend on Chinese trade. (opposite is also true). but other thing is 100% dependency on imported energy.
    Fighters/Training/weopons/fuelparts/ manpower expensive. that need very well funcitioning economic system to sustain. sustainment means continous upgrades.(like Japanese F-15s with Old engines. Old engines cant provide the kind of power for new electronics/EW)
    This is not possible in North Asia/Australia.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252651
    JSR
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    That adds a handful of airframes.

    It will add atleast 50 planes if the first 24 are retired.

    US commitments to Europe is 150 fighters plus rotational figher deployments. That leaves 2,000 odd combat airfcraft for other things.

    US European commitment is in decline – just recently USAFE lost another fighter squadron.

    commitment to EU does not mean that they have to park right there. but this commitment does not allow too much transfer to Asia. Middleast is big part of it. I don’t think there are 2000 upgraded aircraft ready to fight China. remember Flanker and J-10 has more range than regular F-15 and F-16.
    China is not threatening because of lack of fighters. it can have 2000 upgraded fighters and it will still be at same place.

    You provide a link to a number showing more JH-7s and I’ll believe it.

    JH-7 number is big closer to 300 in total than closer to 100.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252712
    JSR
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    Apparently they’ve been retired – indeed I’ve seen a picture of a Su-27 being towed down a high way to a scrapper.

    I dont think all of them scraped. UBK as are late 90s.

    Let’s compare to USA:

    China: 80-120 H-6 of which 15 are H-6K.

    USA: 20 x B-2A, 66 x B-1B, 76 x B-52H.

    China’s H-6s have one big disadvantage – they have to operate within range of high density fighter/air defence concentrations (i.e South China, East China, Philippine and Yellow Seas).

    USAF bombers can operate from relatively safe bases ala Hawaii, Guam and Australia. B-2s can operate from continental USA.

    Both have projects on the burner.

    US has alot of commitements like baby sit EU and Middleast. and China lack of threat is not due to lack fighters. it is some totally different reasons.

    All numbers on JH-7 that I’ve seen show about 200-270 J-10 and under 120 JH-7.

    120 for JH-7 is too low.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252790
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    An interesting article of PLAAF:

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2013/January%202013/0113PLAAF.aspx

    What’s especially interesting are the estimates of Chinese combat aircraft (PLAAF only):

    Modern
    J-10A: 120-200
    J-11A: 116-140
    J-11B: 18
    Su-30: 73-76
    JH-7*: 70-72
    [b]TOTAL: 399-486 (29% – 37% of fighter fleet)[/]

    *JH-7 may be new but it certainly doesn’t seem modern. Think underpowered Tornado

    Older generation
    J-7: 350-552
    J-8: 312 -360
    Q-5: 120-130
    TOTAL: 782 – 840 (63%-71% of fighter fleet

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    There are i think atleast 76 Su-27SK/UBK that you didnot mentioned.
    J-11 of all types closer to 200.
    H-6K is another.
    JH-7/J-10 number will be closer to 300 each. both have 10 years in production.

    Transport/Tanker/AWACS/Bomber fleet is dismal. even if China improved upon it it will not be threatening too much to neighbors.

    in reply to: PAK-FA thread about information, pics, debate ⅩⅩⅢ #2253102
    JSR
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    Here’s a GaAs AESA that went largely unnoticed. This company also supply the T/R modules for the T-50’s N036:

    1st pic is ‘NPP Istok’s’ array, 2nd their T/R module. The 3rd pic is Tomsk NIIPP’s (Томский НИИПП) GaN MMIC & LTCC substrate for Phazotron-NIIRs 3D radar (4th pic). Flight tests for the latter are planned to commence in 2014, and development of the array embedded in a polymer composite laminate will be undertaken 2014-15.

    It is only now, after nearly a decade that sufficient funding became available for programme implementation, that the fruits of those investments are beginning to be glimpsed and, clearly, the Russians have come a long way from ‘Bars’, ‘Irbis-E’ and even ‘Zhuk-AE’.

    I think Japanese are first claim in putting AESA in AAM. but no confirmation whether missile is operational.

    $16b is radio electronics programe part of $24b overall investment after 2015.

    http://www.ewdn.com/2012/11/02/russia-adopts-16-billion-ten-year-radio-electronics-program/

    in reply to: Potential Syrian War – no fighter involvement? #2253449
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    I always enjoy reading the comments of people attempting to justify the actions of “idealists.” Let’s call them what they really are. Nut-jobs.

    With regards to the main point of the topic, I admit I don’t have much to add, but the idea of Iran attacking Israel is hilarious to me because the Iranians know full well that would be an incredibly unwise choice for them. The Israelis would turn Iran into a smoking crater in a matter of weeks. Knowing the Iranians, the history of the Six Day War isn’t taught there (probably didn’t happen just like the Holocaust), but it might bode well for them to read up on the subject…

    Israel certainly consider Iran as more competent adversary than Arabs. see the bargaining over S300. i would not even go how Georgia and Saudi feel about Russia in WTO. Obama going to congress give some Israel influence in the decision.

    in reply to: PAK-FA thread about information, pics, debate ⅩⅩⅢ #2253842
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    Sure, try targetting the F-35 or F-22 from 200-300 km’s out 🙂

    I am pointing to your fallacy of designing a new system against legacy aircraft. legacy means obsolete. you dont design anything for them. when your contiously increasing ranges of each weopons. (increase range with lighter weight means more expensive weopon design) it means the sensors are able to utilize it.

    http://www.janes.com/article/26451/maks-2013-russian-industry-unveils-new-sam-systems
    At a press briefing KTRV General Director Boris Obnosov said the company is working on new air-launched weapons applications that will be revealed as new-generation weapon systems. “We have a policy of only displaying systems at MAKS and other shows that have completed all of their required operational testing and are in series production and/or are already in Russian service.”

    in reply to: PAK-FA thread about information, pics, debate ⅩⅩⅢ #2253851
    JSR
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    So you want to target RCS_Reduced strike fighters at 200-300+ Km Ranges? Why do i even bother !

    This ranges are for fighter aircraft and cruise missiles that are likely to encountered not some thing from the past.

    http://www.janes.com/article/26462/maks-2013-vympel-looks-to-integrate-rvv-bd-on-several-aircraft-types

    in reply to: Military Aviation News-2013 #2253931
    JSR
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    Not sure this qualifies as news so much as a flight of imagination. It is difficult to imagine J-31 competing with F-35 for selection anywhere, let alone several anywheres…

    you give forecasts untill 2050 everywhere. so think.

    in reply to: PAK-FA thread about information, pics, debate ⅩⅩⅢ #2253940
    JSR
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    It must be for legacy heavy strike fighters that have little or no EW capability. Try targetting a RCS_Reduced design from 200-300 km’s out.

    why it will be for legacy fighters? Just like TVC is implemented across the fighter lineup the same way long range BVR missile for next couple of decades. i am sure most of legacy fighters are retiring in that period of time.I would even estimate this 450km range for Su-35 is for export model. MIG-31BM and T-50 will have more range due to more powerfull engines.

    in reply to: PAK-FA thread about information, pics, debate ⅩⅩⅢ #2254432
    JSR
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    Its all about developing capability to better respond to your threat. The US does not need to develop a missile to shoot AWACS for obvious reasons. Regarding An anti radiation weaponry …The US has to develop capability with their stealth fleet in mind, which is going to number in the thousands once all the stealth fighters, stealth bombers, stealth UCAV’s are eventually factored in. Its horses for courses. The JDRADM would have been used in the Anti radiation role, but replacing the HARM is not very high in the priority for future weapons, compared to DEW’s etc. With regards to the stealth fleet more optimized to carry Bombs and other precission weapons – Its because the US does get involved with quite a bit of expeditionary warfare and as such the expectations as far as ability to maintain a threshold of capability is significant. How much inventory would you have to build up (and at what cost) if you replace JDAM’s (SEAD) with Mach 4, 100+nm missiles? Its a tradeoff and a mission requirement thing. Russia is preapring to fight its wars, while the US its own.

    RVV-BD is not alone against AWACS. export version is limited to 200km and 8g. which is more than sufficient for most loaded strike fighters. long range sead missiles has its own advantage as your using less fuel to go near to the target. and turn around time is quicker as missile approaches faster to the target.

    in reply to: Potential Syrian War – no fighter involvement? #2254657
    JSR
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    Totally agree.

    One should never draw lines in the sand unless they intend to back them up with strong action.

    In this case a throwaway line in a public statement has put the US in a position where it has to go to war. That’s quite insane by any standards.

    I dont think it has anything to do with some red line statements from past. Obama hasnt done anything visibly regarding US ambassodor attack in Libya.
    he couldnot save brotherhood in egypt. his old pal Erdogan is practically barking now due to syria.(lira is in collapse zone).

    It was the humilitation of Sauid prince Bandar at hands of Putin that created this situation. Putin gave false impression of a deal which convinced the Prince to come to Moscow as he thought deal is almost at hand. now there are leaks which shows sauidi in bad light.

    in reply to: Potential Syrian War – no fighter involvement? #2254666
    JSR
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    Russia considering sanctions on the US?

    http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/08/28/russia-mulls-ban-rd180-engine-exports/

    Russia has more money than skilled labor to produce products. so it is more like using these people for domestic purpose rather than export.

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