T’is a sad sad thing.
15,000 used J-6s plus 29,000 An-2s for ground attack! Averything in one package for one third of a price of your F-7Gs.
You forgot the restriction where we are allowed only one model. So it’s either 15,000 J-6s or 29,000 An-2s.
Very nice drawings of the JH-7A, Deino.
A picture of C-80x air-launched AShMs and a JH-7. Not sure if they are C-801Ks or C-802Ks.
Maybe they should call in some Japanese torpedo bombers or dive bombers. Maybe they can manage.
Seriously. And that was a freighter. I wonder if anyone can sink the Repulse and Prince of Wales today. Probably a lost skill.
Rare pictures of a J-8II (number 72166) with PL-11 BVRAAM on display.
…not swedes…but look to the east from our prespective….
East? I thought Finns were taught to be politically correct and not point that out? 😀
Aren’t you officially neutral between East and West? At any rate, the Swedes are less likely to retaliate with nukes if you use ground ordnance on them.
I mainly ment the main site, which is the most covering database for chinese military…But the forum is good, still rather new so give it time… 😉
Very true. The reference part is very good across all the services. Though for strictly aircraft ref, Huitong’s Chinese military aircraft site is considered the standard. Rick’s China-military.org is unmatched in its listing of units and the orbat.
I was just looking for good artillery discussion and somehow just left on that road… :rolleyes:
There is no such thing as a good artillery discussion 😀
It’s too esoteric.
If you only have only model? You need numbers in that case not quality. A few superplanes won’t help you against a wide variety of American planes where one or more of them can exploit you weakness.
You need a cheap plane. I would buy about 6000 F-7Gs. You would flood the sky with so many planes that the AWACS will see nothing on the radar screen but except a snowstorm.
The 80’s were great for going down to Waldenbook to pick up the latest Salamander book. I’ve still got some of them stashed out in the shed. About then I started reading Monche Publishing’s Military Technology and Naval Technology and had been reading AvWeek since about ’80 or so so it started to lose it’s luster but still some of those books were just so damn cool 🙂
Goddamn, Waldenbooks. What a blast from the past. Nothing but Borders and Barnes & Nobles these days.
I also subscribed to Naval Proceedings for many years. Great reading. Always looked forward to the yearly international review.
Ah, the new ones appear to be crap, I’ve only ever seen them as softbound volumes, not hardbound like the originals! 😀
The latest softbound ones are printed in the Czech republic or some other place east. Still good reference though a lot of entries are barely changed from the early 1990s.
Man, when I lived in Europe, I picked up dozens of the Salamander titles. Some of the big ones were pretty interesting, but I tended to prefer the smaller ones myself.
Oh yeah, the little reference ones are great to keep by the bedside and I used to read them right before sleep. Hell, I still have a set next to the alarm clock. I think the newer versions are printed by Prentice Hall.
Salamander books? Do you mean the little ones, about the size of a VHS tape?
They had little reference ones and big coffee table ones like the The Chinese War Machine.
They were great reads. Lots of pictures 😀
I lucked out in that I grew up in a major city and the public library that I visited after school had all the Jane’s hardcover annuals as well as many of the Jane’s weeklies and monthlies. I would peruse JDW while waiting for my friends or girlfriend. The Super 7 and the Peace Pearl projects were the big Chinese items in Jane’s in the late eighties and early 90s.
Salamander books were another set of favorites.
Only sports and chicks commanded the same kind of attention and research 😀
http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/us-offers-bulgaria-military-aircraft-deal/id_14200/catid_64
US OFFERS BULGARIA MILITARY AIRCRAFT DEAL
09:00 Thu 23 Mar 2006The US offered Bulgaria the purchase of 16 new F-18 Super Hornet fighter aircraft. The cost of the project reaches one billion dollars.
If Bulgaria accepts the offer, it will become the second country after the US using this type of aircraft, mediapool.bg reported. The US has not offered such machines abroad yet.
Bulgaria can choose among three offers. The most expensive totals nearly one billion dollars and includes the purchase of 16 new aircraft. Each fighter airplane costs 54 million dollars. The second offer is for the purchase of 12 used F-18 Hornets and 12 used F-5 machines. A third offer includes only 12 used F-18 machines.
Earlier, US defence officials said the country would likely join the procedure for the provision of new fighter airplanes for the Bulgarian army. The US government will carry out talks, which is the usual procedure in such cases.
Such aircraft might likely be purchased by Malaysia, India, Japan and Switzerland apart from Bulgaria.
I love these planes. even more than the J-10s
Same here. I was following the JH-7 as a kid in the early 1990s when it was like the J-10. No official acknowledgement and no pictures except for an artistic impression which was pictured in Jane’s for years. When the FBC-1 first flew in 1998, it was like finally seeing the Loch Ness monster.
PLA watching is much easier today with the internet. The FC-1 we get to see from design to first flight and we are even watching assembly pictures of prototypes like 01 and 04.
seems to do OK…the latest paramentary defence reviev promised some Ground attack ordance for them But sofar I havent heard anything about any pruchases
Ground attack ordnance? I would imagine that the Swedes would be the targets if you get them?
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Well if i would do that, It propaply would **** off a good contignent of Chinese military fans and visitors of http://www.sinodefence.com -site which is (I’ve heard) the best site for Chinese military in the internet
Best? Not by a long shot. The best English-language Chinese military forum (and probably the best military forum anywhere) is CDF.
But all English Chinese military forums are fun. CDF or CMF (when it’s up) have more pictures of military equipment and half-naked girls than any other military fora I’ve visited. Sinodefense has a girlie thread spanning over three years? If not, it’s nowhere near the best.
…you see it’s not exactly My forum 😉 😉
Oh I see. Now how did you end up cleaning up for a Chinese forum? Westerners are common on all Chinese mil fora but you might be the first Finn.