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  • in reply to: China Aircraft Carrier Trials #2036842
    GoldenDragon
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    China has nuclear weapons with ICBMs, one of the largest armies in the world (perhaps even the largest) and claims of “a military beset by enemies with a history of invading and killing Chinese” are just overwrought nonsense.

    No more overwrought nonsense than this bull manure about the Chinese carrier.

    And it does come down to race.

    Millions of Chinese were killed by the Japanese and Chinese territory was invaded by Japanese and foreigners.

    But Japan is not questioned when it brings up that China is a “threat”? Japan attacked China not the other way around!

    There are carriers around the world.

    And YET only China’s carrier is questioned. Why is that? If it isn’t racial prejudice then what is it?

    in reply to: China Aircraft Carrier Trials #2036853
    GoldenDragon
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    I think golden dragon first mentioned the Japanese but it wasn’t directly in the form of them invading the chinese mainland, but rather continued unease over Japan’s military potency.

    Invasion and mass murder aren’t the only thing a weak military allows enemies to do. The whole gamut from blockade to denial of access to sawing off of sovereign territory are there as options for Japan as long as China’s military is kept weak.

    But the collective memory can’t forget the invasion and mass murder committed by Japan any more than Israel can forget the Holocaust. China and the Chinese race would have to be stupid if it didn’t prepare for the worst case scenario. Just like the Israel would be stupid if it didn’t prepare the same way.

    And what guarantee is there that Japan who won’t attempt a 1895? This was limited warfare to embarrass China and weaken Chinese control its periphery. China lost Taiwan and the Daiyutais at the time. Okinawa also went from an autonomous state allied to the Ch’ing to Japanese territory.

    in reply to: China Aircraft Carrier Trials #2036866
    GoldenDragon
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    Japan had invaded and kill millions of Chinese. That scenario is real and has been proven by history.

    The scenario that the Japanese are projecting of a Chinese “threat” is far less real and has not be born out by history.

    What is this bull manure about “mythical” Japanese invasion? Thirty million dead is mythical? Was the Holocaust mythical too? Or is only Chinese casualty “mythical”?

    The carrier can’t protect China from a Japanese invasion or an American air strike similar to what had happened to Iraq. But it is a step towards modernizing a military beset by enemies with a history of invading and killing Chinese.

    in reply to: China Aircraft Carrier Trials #2036932
    GoldenDragon
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    Put yourself in the mind of the Chinese.

    30 million Chinese dead at the hands of Japan. Japanese invasions in 1895, 1931 and 1937.

    Invasion and occupation by Western troops in various parts of China from 1841 to 1997.

    This is what it means to the Chinese people in having a weaker military than nations who sees China as the enemy. You put the Chinese race at the mercy of foreigners who have already demonstrated a history of rape and murder on the Chinese mainland.

    Defense comes before a social welfare system because without security you can’t build anything.

    Already the Japanese are hyping a Chinese “threat” and to many Chinese this means that Japan intends to keep China weak so that the option of attacking the Chinese mainland is viable.

    in reply to: China Aircraft Carrier Trials #2036993
    GoldenDragon
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    Trident:

    I understand your point, but to my mind it still seems jarring to announce both a new carrier and a missile system which, if it worked, would effectively render the carrier obsolete

    Who announced what?

    It was the US (USNI) that publicly declared that the DF-21D existed. Just like the anti-satellite kinetic kill weapon, China would never have acknowledged it if the US had not made it public and challenged China to speak openly about it.

    As for the carrier, it never been mentioned publicly during the 10 years it lay at Dalian until sea trials were imminent and even then it is spoken of as a training system with no ability to change the balance of power.

    in reply to: China Aircraft Carrier Trials #2036998
    GoldenDragon
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    The perception is that white nations and those allied to it like Japan are the only ones allowed to have modern militaries while non-white, non allied nations like China is not.

    It is a hypocritical and racist way of thinking.

    The US, UK and Japan have never been invaded by China while China had been invaded by all three. Until the 1930s, US and UK gunboats can kill (and have killed) Chinese citizens on the Yangtze with impunity. And yet these nations are allowed to have far more moden militaries than China? For what? So it can attack, invade and shear off chunks of China with impunity?

    China’s military by all rights should far stronger than it is irregardless of its economy. History teaches it that. A poor China in 1895, 1931 and 1937 did not stop Japan from attacking and invading China. Being poor doesn’t protect you from attack.

    China should be more paranoid. If China were more paranoid in the 1800s, it might have protected itself better.

    in reply to: China Aircraft Carrier Trials #2037100
    GoldenDragon
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    For some reason China needs an ever bigger military budget, more ships, submarines, fighters, etc. This is despite the fact that none of its neighbours are ever likely to attack it unless China attacks first.

    Funny that.

    Funny that 30 million Chinese were killed by Japan when Japan attacked China first. Unless China has a first world military there is no guarantee that this would not happen again. There is no apology and no promise that Japan would not attack China.

    Already Japan is calling China an enemy and to Chinese eyes this is could be preparation for another attack on China.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2340511
    GoldenDragon
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    Depends one who is giving the information. I can recall several instances in which Chinese erroneously claimed that their jet engines matched foreign competitors, or that certain planes were based completely on indigenous developments.

    List them. I don’t recall any instance where there was an official organ of the PLA or Chinese media saying anything of the sort.

    In fact, a lot of the reporting even in the Chinese media is quoting foreign sources. That include the J-10, J-15 and J-11B.

    So I think you are mis”recalling” or more likely just making things up.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2346093
    GoldenDragon
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    Anyway, we should get used to a superpower acts like a superpower :diablo::diablo::diablo:

    China doesn’t see itself as a superpower and neither do the Chinese from any number of polls.

    The PRC officially takes the position in all international organizations without exception that it is a developing nation. It doesn’t matter if it is the G-20, WTO or at Copenhagen, it states that it is third world.

    That said, it does have the trappings of a P5 position at the UNSC, etc. that create an inferiority complex for a nation like India that is way behind in every aspect that is measurable whether it’s the military, the economy or geo-political weight.

    A sense of inferiority is the only reason the IAF would need to bring up the J-20 and denigrate it at their show.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2346220
    GoldenDragon
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    Okay, let’s start over.

    IAF claims there is no Chinese R&D involved in J-20.

    http://www.in.com/news/current-affairs/fullstory-air-chief-marshal-pv-naik-questions-ethics-of-5th-generation-project-17485815-80d7d77c1685ef8b5ccd121e3f8f26d7b1f97970-rhp.html

    The IAF has a deep inferiority complex if it needs to make that kind of statement at its own airshow.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2346231
    GoldenDragon
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    you really don’t think Israel can take on Germany should it some how decide to invade?

    No I don’t. Israel had more than enough trouble invading Lebanon or even keeping the Gaza strip in check. The US took over Iraq, a much larger nation lock, stock and barrel. The truth is it lives in a pretty weak neighborhood.

    Carve Israel out of Vietnam and see if it would have survived. I sincerely doubt it would have done better than a half-million US troops.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2346250
    GoldenDragon
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    long live the Israeli olympic power house

    Yes, Israel’s military would have a fighting chance against any of the P5 or Germany in an actual war :rolleyes:

    Israel dominates its region the same way South Africa dominates its.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2346291
    GoldenDragon
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    I find it inconceivable that the IAF would have any greater advantage than the Indian Olympic team have over the Chinese one.

    The gap in the quality of infrastructure and organization tends to hold true across all institutions and levels of society when comparing nations. The saving grace for the IAF is that it doesn’t have to compete for earnest every four years like the Olympic squad so its strengths and weaknesses are not exposed on the anvil of competition.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2346319
    GoldenDragon
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    IAF claims there is no Chinese R&D involved in J-20.

    http://www.in.com/news/current-affairs/fullstory-air-chief-marshal-pv-naik-questions-ethics-of-5th-generation-project-17485815-80d7d77c1685ef8b5ccd121e3f8f26d7b1f97970-rhp.html

    The IAF has a deep inferiority complex if it needs to make that kind of statement at its own airshow.

    in reply to: Hot Dog PLAAF; News and Photos volume 14 #2353155
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    It’s a light attack copter like the Cobra since it is based on the Z-9 (Dauphin) much like the Cobra was based on the Huey.

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