Just found the first review and to admit … I’m simply speechless ! 😮

THANKS to SOC via the Secret Projects Forum: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16508.msg197054.html#msg197054

Deino

Chinese aviation watchers have really been blessed by both you and SOC.

How often is it that while asking a question about a subject that you can actually get an answer from someone who wrote the book on it?

Posters in this thread should count themselves lucky.

Hotdog does to provoke people and to engage in a form of trolling. It’s idiotic at best and insidious damaging to the forum at worst.

And no, he doesn’t consult with people when he puts on their names on threads. He placed my name in a thread that he knows I would never create.

It is known fact that Chinese have invested heavly in Africa and Chinese simply dont have any military to protect it despite world second largest budget. Neither Japan or Russia has wasted this scale of money.

What nation would limit foreign investment based on its military ability to “protect” it? What century is it?

Taiwan, South Korea, Japan and practically every nation in Europe have far more investment than they are able to protect militarily.

This is one of most stupid observations I have heard here yet.

How’s that ARJ (in your sig) doing these days?

Sure is leaving Russia in the dust. 😀

It’s doing well enough. There are 309 orders for the aircraft already. Its stablemate, the larger C-919 has 175 orders and another 60 options.

As I said, it’s a matter of time.

It is a matter of economics.

If its performance characteristics and technical sophistication match its Russian counterpart, yes. If not, then no – just because it carries a label which reads WS-15 that doesn’t mean it’s a world-class engine 😉

And even then, there are plenty of other fields where China has some way to go to match Russian/Western standards, for example nuclear submarines.

Russian and Western are nowhere near equivalent. The industrial complexes of developed East Asia (Japan, South Korea and Taiwan) are far closer to the West in quality than Russian ones. We can see this in the fields of large scale infrastructure and electronics. And China is definitely East Asian.

WS-15 and WS-10A if and when they are successful it would be because of a western base. Like the economy, it’s really a matter of time before Russia is caught up and left behind. You can see that in Chinese infrastructure and the heavy industrial products like cranes, HSR locomotives and commercial ships. But it will take awhile before it can catch up with the West.

Which is what makes these “questions” from Japan and the US hypocritical and laughable to basically every third world nation in the world.

No one outside of the whites and their allies like the Japanese can possibly believe that it is okay for one party to have 11 carriers and it is not okay for the second party to have even one.

And to top it off, Japan and the West already had a history of invading Chinese territory and killing Chinese civilians.

It is like Germany lecturing Israel to decrease the size and capability of its military. Stupid, racist and insensitive to the extreme.

Don’t reply to racists like Musashi or Teer since their whole schtick is to turn this into a political insult fest to insinuate that it is okay for whites to have 11 carriers but China can’t have one without being considered a threat.

Especially ignore Teer, since as an Indian he has no understanding of the West or the Japanese position and yet pretends like he does just so he can get his digs in on the Chinese.

Their world is where it is okay for the Holocaust to be remembered but for 30 million Chinese murdered by the Japanese can’t be remembered and that China must remain weak so that the Japanese and the Western nations who have invaded and killed Chinese people in the past can have the same option in the future.

They can go stew in their racist juices.

Stick to news and pictures.

BTW, nothing could be a bigger hypocrisy and hyperbole than questioning the Chinese carrier which is — as said by China and everyone else with any knowledge of naval affairs — that it is no more than a training instrument and would not change the equation in the Western Pacific which is stacked from top to bottom with American and Japanese firepower. With US submarines, warships and aircraft patrolling far closer to China’s coast than Cuba. And the US threatened to go nuclear when the Soviets decided to station in Cuba.

Hypocrisy goes hand in hand with an ugly racism. “We can harass you in front of your doorstep but don’t try to defend yourself because it’ll change the balance of power.”

The reply from the average Chinese person should be “Go f–k yourself.”